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  Well an Elder told me why all the new revised NWT bibles are grey/gray in color

  by StoneWall in

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  while in discussion with an elder from my old congregation, he asked if i had been given an opportunity to see the new bibles yet.. i told him yes that a family member had showed me one a few days back and some of the improvements (changes) that were in it.. as our conversation went along he asked me what i thought of the color.

  i said well its certainly different from the black cover i was so used to or even going back further a few decades the green covered bibles when i was a child.

  (we both got a chuckle out of that).

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  “fulltimestudent”: “Lollypop pink with a barbie doll on the cover.”

  LOL! They could call that the “Leo Greenlees Edition.”
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  New Study Watchtower Celebrates 100 year Anniversary of the Kingdom

  by Skinnedsheep in

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  it is painful to read.

  check out the 1/15/14 wt.

  i am going to throw an invisible party to celebrate.

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  We can “see” Jesus’ invisible presence since 1914 through our figurative “eyes of understanding”—which I guess means that you need to order your magic Watchtower decoder glasses. Yes, don’t delay. Order Now! Just call 1 800 blah, blah, blah. (Or just look for the frigin decoder ring in your next box of Captain Crunch. . . . . Or, best yet: just come here. We’ll fix those bloody “eyes of understanding” for ya!)
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  What Was Your First Experience In Exposing Yourself To "Apostasy"?

  by minimus in

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  as a young teenager, i would look at "apostate" books at the city library.

  i was always intrigued as to what was sooo bad and other than a few writings of some that seemed like they hated the witnesses, i would clandestinely look at literature, especially in "christian" bookstores.. it took years for me to finally disconnect.

  i will say that ray franz' books enlightened me the most!.

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  Actually, it was this very Board that did it for me. There was a reference in one of the threads to “Spiritual Food At the Proper Time,” as featured at “http://www.freeminds.org” – it’s a chronological listing and comparison of all the Watchtower doctrines right from the start. That historical synopsis was very informative and eye-opening for me. I could see the development of that mess of contrived dogma and discrepancies – the insanity – as it played out over the years.

  I came on-board to this Board around the turn of this millennium because my dad used to scare me about sinning against the holy spirit (thus my user name), and so I figured: If I’ve already been condemned by unforgivable sin by “going too far” in the obsession of certain bizarre fantasies in my teens (it’s in my very first post), then I might was well be here – at JWDB. And the rest, as they say, “is history!”
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  How many have read 'Crisis of Conscience'?

  by tornapart in

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  for me it was the book!

  it opened my eyes.

  i started it thinking it would just enlighten me about how the organisation works.

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  Hi “tornapart.” I read both Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom, and I can certainly relate to where you said, “I was certain it wouldn't shake my faith. Boy! Was I wrong!!!” Although, in my case, I was certain that it would only confirm the fact that the Watchtower is not God’s organization – and indeed it did.

  The first Watchtower exposé book I read was 30 Years a Watchtower Slave, by William J. Schnell. The latest of such books I read was Apocalypse Delayed, by M. James Penton (second edition).

  The absolute best authority on the matter, of course, is our dear Raymond Franz. His above classic two books are very insightful and eye-opening, to say the least.
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  Come... take the free gift of the water of life!

  by tec in

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  peace to you all!.

  for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).

  i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.

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  All replies thus far: Well said. My sentiments exactly.

  “He has been asking me” . . . . Looks like you’ve been getting direct communication with God. Maybe you should start up a new magazine which divulges His thoughts apparently being expressed through you. I hear there’s some pretty good money in that. (Someone already tried that.)
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  Toronto, ON, Canada - Ex-Jw Meetup Sept 21 @ noon

  by slimk in

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  for more details please visit the link below:.

  http://www.meetup.com/oexjws/events/138808682/.

  or pm me for more details.. hopefully we can find a few toronto area lurkers on here that would be interested in meeting likeminded people in person!.

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  I’ll be there for sure. Just have to think of a get-out-of-field-service excuse. (I guess the usual tired-with-headache excuse will do.)
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  What is it about the Jehovah Witnesses that disturb you most.

  by Narcissistic Supply in

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  “Wasanelder Once”: “. . . their total lack of community responsibility.”

  As it is September 11 th today, I can’t help but thinking of the original September 11 th when shortly after the World Trade Centre attack, the JWs showed up around the ground zero area, and what did they do? Help out with what needed to be done at the time, like clearing away the rubble and serving food and drinks to the disaster workers? Noooo. I heard that they were bragging about handing out magazines, books, and tracts. (Big surprise.) Instead of showing tangible community spirit, they used it as just another marketing opportunity.

  “Comatose”: “All the time and everywhere I went. Walking dead people.”

  That reminds me of that movie with Bruce Willis and Haley Joel Osment called “The Sixth Sense,” where the boy says, “I see dead people.” Now, however, instead of seeing “dead people,” when we look afar at the JWs and people who want to join them, we just see stupid people.
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  So Jw's are allowed to celebrate baby showers, but not birthdays?? huh??

  by nolongerconfused in

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  perhaps, one of the most arrogant and contradicting behaviors of jdubs.... what is the difference between celebrating a baby shower and a birthday?...they both have ancient origins, from pagan people, including egyptians and the greek.... have you guys noticed any other hypocrite celebrations/behaviors jdubs engage in?.

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  “blondie”:

  “Let me add this Question from Readers. This is definitely a "Vomit Alert."”

  Actually, that is more of a “vomit alert,” Blondie. It is really much more of a “steam-coming-out-of-the-ears-angry alert!” And the way the Watchtower Society talks about women – I suppose it was closer to the “What-is-a-woman-anyway,-but-a-hank-of-hair-and-a-bag-of-bones” era enjoyed by Judge Franklin Rutherford. These piggish guys deserved to be slapped profusely.

  As for birthdays, all I can think of is Jesus’ choice words at Matthew 23:24: “You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.” (NIV)
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  My Walmart encounter with the dubs today

  by poppers in

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  yup, there were 3 of them camped out in front of the store with their display of materials - first time i've seen them there.

  he said he converted 5 years ago from the presbyterians, and that he had learned more in 1 year with the jws than all his time with the presbyterians (the usual stuff, jesus died on a stake, paradise earth, etc).

  he claimed he didn't know about the invisible return of jesus, he was dismissive of the impact of disfellowshipping and that people can leave with little consequence, he claimed that the romans didn't use a cross until 200 years after jesus died on the stake.

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  “Julia Orwell”:

  “Hey, become a JW! No more . . . . Oh and you have to . . . . and all the little babies in the world are going to be killed by God, but not you, not as long as you don't masturbate or question the organisation in any way once you're baptised.”

  I think that every JW going out in field service should be required by law to present a simple disclosure document listing all those many dos and don’ts which are unique to the whacky cult. It should say something like the following:

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  “Before you continue your study program with the Jehovah’s Witnesses, please read this “Disclosure Document” which includes the following list of things which you would not be allowed to do, as well as things which you would be required to do, as dictated by the Watchtower religion, should you eventually decide to become a member:

  List of Prohibitions:

  (List of things which could possibly lead to condemnation by Jehovah God or disfellowshipping from the Watchtower, both of which resulting in death at Armageddon, such as celebrating any holidays, gambling, hypnotherapy, martial arts, fornication, masturbation, etc.)

  . . . .

  List of Requirements:

  (List of things all members must do, including regular meeting/assembly/convention attendance, study of only Watchtower literature, field service recruitment, etc.)

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  NOTE: Failure to willingly comply with any of the foregoing, including any and all changes and amendments thereto made from time to time at the sole discretion of the Watchtower Governing Body, by any member of any age will automatically make such member subject to disfellowshipping. Immediately upon disfellowshipping of any member, all other members, including close family members and relatives, must cut all ties and communication with that member, otherwise they may be subject to disfellowshipping themselves.

  Please sign and date this “Disclosure Document” and submit it to the Jehovah’s Witness member who has met with you today so that it may be kept on record. By signing this “Disclosure Document,” you hereby formally acknowledge that you have read and understand the above.”

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  Such a disclosure document should be required by law to be given to any prospective member of the Jehovah’s Witnesses to allow the person the chance to make an informed decision as to whether or not to continue. People should have the right to be given a chance to opt out at the very beginning. After all, people’s time doesn’t have to be wasted.
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  Which is more weird ? Nov 15, 2013 page 20

  by jwstudy in

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  which is more weird ?.

  english standard edition or simplified edition?.

  instructions we may receive, whether.

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  “bytheirworks”:

  “I believe that the direction Watchtower will demand will be to disfellowship all inactive ones.”

  Yeah, then they could shoot themselves in both feet at the same time. Dance, Watchtower fools, dance!