Posts by darkspilver

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Paperback?

by Maxee in

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has anyone seen the paperback editions of previous and recent bookstudy pubs.

i haven't seen them here in aus?.

also i recieved a email today from my brother, who too is a enquiring jw.

darkspilver

Hi Maxee

Has anyone seen the paperback editions of previous and recent bookstudy pubs. I haven't seen them here in Aus?

The Secret of Family Happiness

Also I recieved a email today from my brother, who too is a enquiring JW. He wrote that in a footnote in a book written by Raymond Franz 'Christian Freedom' that due to the abundance of old publications in order to get rid of the excess stock these publications were nominated by the faithful and discreet slave and encouraged via KM's to be used as the book study spiritual food. Has anyone read Christian Freedom? Has anyone else heard this?

No. Maybe in olden times, like last century? But I'd expect even then that the WT would have had to have printed more anyway back then when a particular book or brochure was to be used by everyone for the weekly study. I can imagine them moving the order that the books/brochures were studied to logisitically make the printing of them more efficient.

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Question for New Yorkers

by EdenOne in

quick question because of a current writing project i have in hands .... if you live on staten island, what would be the assembly hall you would attend for a circuit assembly ?.

another question: in 2014 were there still circuit assemblies?

or had it been already narrowed down to special assembly days?.

darkspilver

I'm not a New Yorker, but....

Your terminology is all wrong

They STILL have Circuit Assemblies

It was the Special Assembly Days they cancelled

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/274403/boe-letter-new-adjustments

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/275911/new-boe-letters

The WT service year starts on 1 September each year

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Moving and transferring publisher's card.

by The Fugitive in

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hi folks.

i have been a lurker here for quite some time but i have now decided to make my first post.

i am originally from somewhere on the east coast, but recently, in part to aid in the fading process, i have moved to a city somewhere west of the mississippi.

darkspilver

If someone were transfer several times through a series of congregations for say congregation A then to congregation B and to C then D etc. would congregation D be able to tell from the publisher's cards and letter of introduction that are mailed to them that the person originally came from congregation A and then mail everything back there

Your OP implied that with this second route you would not be turning up at the congregation at all - just choosing a 'random congregation'

Therefore, why would B send to C?

If B did send to C - without seeing you, seeing you a couple of times only, seeing you for a short time (ie they don't know you well enough to write a letter of introduction) - B will probably either include letter of introduction from A in letter to C and/or will let C know you originally came from A. B might even refuse to send to C and send back to A for them to send to C themselves.

based on the assumption that the person's family is there?

No assumption is made - your cards arrive at B, you don't turn up, B gets rid of your cards by posting back to A - B doesn't know you, B isn't making any assumptions, they're just getting rid of your cards from their file (of course they could telephone or email A, effectively same result) - A wonders why your cards have been returned to them.

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Moving and transferring publisher's card.

by The Fugitive in

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hi folks.

i have been a lurker here for quite some time but i have now decided to make my first post.

i am originally from somewhere on the east coast, but recently, in part to aid in the fading process, i have moved to a city somewhere west of the mississippi.

darkspilver

Hi The Fugitive

Does anybody think this could work?

No, your cards will very likely be sent back to your original congregation, which will then 'red flag' it to the secretary in the original congregation who is then much more likely to, at the very least, informally check with your family, it'll not just look weird, it'll also look questionable....

Hi Ds

I believe the new arrangement is that the new secretary must request your cards from your old Cong.

Interesting

BoE letter: November 17, 2010 - "Re: Letters of introduction"

If the previous service committee knows where the publisher moved, they may take the initiative and send these items without waiting for a formal request from the new congregation.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwqmWMK7dwtlYzZGZU9qTF9PUE0/view

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Canada - Macleans article, Oct. 28, 2016: A Jehovah’s Witness and her deadly devotion

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.macleans.ca/news/a-jehovahs-witness-and-her-deadly-devotion/.

a jehovah’s witness and her deadly devotion.

did a jehovah’s witness die after refusing a blood transfusion, and should the state have let it happen?.

darkspilver

Deadly Devotion: Witness to Murder

Kim Anderson, a divorced mother of two and devout Jehovah's Witness, finally finds the man of her dreams. But on their wedding day, she has a sinking feeling that something is terribly wrong.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2966574/episodes?season=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k8gA37KMGE

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New Video - Old News - Shooting of JW during machete attack at New Orleans airport was justified

by darkspilver in

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a newly released video shows shocking footage of a new orleans man charging at tsa officials with a machete.. the video, taken march 20, 2015, shows a man later identified as richard white running through a new orleans airport terminal waving the large knife while spraying wasp spray at various people.. jefferson parish sheriff’s lt. heather sylve ultimately shot him in the thigh and he died of his injuries after refusing medical treatment, reportedly because it went against his beliefs as a jehovah’s witness.. http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/news/crime_police/article_8d680284-9bb4-11e6-9cf1-cb15d005609c.html.

previously discussed here:.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/184150001/richard-white-machette-attacker-new-orleans-airport-jw-dies-another-medicine-denier.

darkspilver

A newly released video shows shocking footage of a New Orleans man charging at TSA officials with a machete.

The video, taken March 20, 2015, shows a man later identified as Richard White running through a New Orleans Airport Terminal waving the large knife while spraying wasp spray at various people.

Jefferson Parish Sheriff’s Lt. Heather Sylve ultimately shot him in the thigh and he died of his injuries after refusing medical treatment, reportedly because it went against his beliefs as a Jehovah’s Witness.

http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/news/crime_police/article_8d680284-9bb4-11e6-9cf1-cb15d005609c.html

Previously discussed here:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/184150001/richard-white-machette-attacker-new-orleans-airport-jw-dies-another-medicine-denier

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5991626849648640/old-news-story-machete-nola-airport-killer

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Kendall Kingdom Hall UK

by darkspilver in

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all this talk of kingdom halls.... remember what used to happen?.

gilthwaiterigg lane kendal la9 6nt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y11f_plajek.

darkspilver

Hi Pubsinger!

I thought Kendal KH was on the High Street above one of the shops. Spent some great times up there visiting mates who lived there. Thankfully most are out

Depends how OLD you are it appears Kendal kingdom hall was built in 2006

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In Germany, the Watchtower logo must be removed from all kingdom halls

by processor in

according to german april issue of our kingdom ministry, the watchtower logo must be removed from all kingdom halls:.

it sais that the watchtower logo - a stylised watchtower or a watchtower with a bible - is used by the watchtower society.

thus, it should not be used by congregations or private persons, neither on kingdom halls, stationary or anything else.

darkspilver

Hi pale.emperor

Kirkby Kingdom Hall in Liverpool, UK has the Watchtower Logo build into the brickwork. Different coloured bricks make the logo.
#FAIL #FACEPALM #RUNNINGAHEADOFTHECARIOT

????

Strange, I can't see it.... do you have to squint your eyes, your wait for the rain....

https://goo.gl/maps/8mJSGs1j1H42

#TOOBUSYWITHGIRLFRIENDS

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Another Outright Lie Published 2/17 WT

by LostGeneration in

this info is from the article "who is leading god's people today" feb 17 study edition.. to help them disseminate bible truth in various languages, zion’s watch tower tract society was legally incorporated in 1884, with brother russell as president.

* he was an outstanding student of the bible, and he fearlessly exposed as false such doctrines as the trinity and the immortality of the soul.

he discerned that christ would return invisibly and that “the appointed times of the nations” would end in 1914.. pretty sickening article overall about how badass the gb is, though this little gem is printed as well, paragraph 12. the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

darkspilver

Hi smiddy

Another lie ? , "Zions Watchtower & Tract Society was Legally incorporated in 1884,with brother Russell as president"

The Proclaimers Book would appear to be 'clearer' on this matter

Jehovah’s Witnesses—Proclaimers of God’s Kingdom, page 576, paragraph 1

The following year the first of an extensive series of tracts designed to interest people in Bible truths was prepared for publication. This work quickly took on immense proportions. In order to handle it, Zion’s Watch Tower Tract Society was formed on February 16, 1881, with W. H. Conley as president and C. T. Russell as secretary and treasurer. Arrangements were made for the printing to be done by commercial firms in various cities of Pennsylvania, New York, and Ohio, as well as in Britain. In 1884, Zion’s Watch Tower Tract Society was legally incorporated, with C. T. Russell as president, and its charter showed that it was more than a society that would direct publishing. Its real objective was religious; it was chartered for “the dissemination of Bible Truths in various languages.”

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Jehovah Witnesses sects flock to Hudson Valley Town

by ToesUp in

interesting article regarding the properties owned by jw's and other sects.. shawangunk - this ulster county town, with a ridge of quartz mountains rising 2,000 feet, is a mecca for rock climbers.

in recent years, religious groups have also begun flocking to the mid-hudson valley municipality of 15,000 residents, putting down roots and scooping up tax breaks.. in 2015, the 29 shawangunk properties with religious non-profit status were worth $148 million, up 85 percent since 1999.. “our town is nearly 30 percent exempt,” said town tax assessor curt schoeberl.

“in the last five or 10 years, the largest tax-exempt group’s growth is religious.

darkspilver

Interesting how the American system seems to be broken then?

Surely the problem here is two-fold?

Firstly the tax-exemption is put into place by central government - but they don't provide grants to local communities to make up for the lost income/tax

Secondly the actual local communities are set up to be too small anyway and are therefore much more susceptible / affected financially when a tax exempt group moves in - the communites are too fragile financially due to their small size to be able to cushion the lose of money due to tax exemption.

But maybe I just don't understand the 'problem'?

And isn't Brooklyn NYC heading for a 'pay day' with annual property taxes on the buildings that WT has sold their? Of course the issue is that Brooklyn is a larger community so as a percentage overall it wouldn't be so significant as for the upstate communities....