as a father, made in god's love, that has troubled me for a very long time, is that god, as described by the wts, is soon, going to slaughter every, roughly, 7.9 billion people on the planet, because they have figured out a way to come know him as a father according to the wts.. .
as a father, dear apologist, why would you kill/murder a one-day old baby?.
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This is because at the time the bible was written children (and women) were seen as chattels, possessions. Expendable assets if you like.
That's why Job loses his livestock, possessions and his children.
That's why it's ok for a husband to take his newlywed wife, if she hasn't shown proof of virginity, and have her publicly stoned to death.
Thank goodness that in this day and age our morality and sensibilities have developed way beyond that vicious bronze age book.
seeing various/changing laws on the same action, some may feel truth is relative, and there is no such thing as right and wrong.. yet a closer look at beneath the details would show that truth is not relative, and everyone knows what is right and wrong.. driving in the night by putting the head-light off is wrong, but right when country is in war with another country.
behind both the conflicting laws, the truth is same: safety and welfare of the people.
this is true of notion about what is right and wrong:.
Yet a closer look beneath the details would show that truth is not relative, and everyone KNOWS what is right and wrong.
You can't squidge these two statements together even if you do try to join them with a comma and an and!
1) Truth is absolute.
2) Nobody knows what everyone knows.
3) Right and wrong are subjective.
this is my first post on here so bear with me.
currently i am still an active jw with serious questions about the jw org.
i was hesitant signing up but really need as much input from the people on this forum to get a clear understanding on things.
JWINQUESTION, There's a whole massive, complex, fun world out there. Why are you so hung up on the gay question?
Is it your sexuality rather than your religion which is really in question?
I don't mean that as an insult, I just don't understand all this kerfuffle over something which shouldn't affect you at all.
according to plato, the universe thrives on its own, dies and gets rebornall on its own and within itself.
the wise symbolized this concept in ouroboros, a serpent eating its own tail.
[even more wonderful is the marvel called a fruit-bearing treeit does not even eat its own fruit, but simply subsists on mostly what we may consider as dirt/refuse; and trees collectively perform yet another marvel of photosynthesis that make use of our wastes and give us oxygen, food, water, shelter, fiber..........................................[http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/20/opinion/to-save-the-planet-dont-plant-trees.html?_r=0].
I know, and I will never stop pointing that out so long as people are using belief and faith to tell me how to live.
I salute you!
i am having a discussion at work with the jw's.
should you spank a child to make them understand or do you reason with them.
they both agree with spanking.
I just don't know what I'd do if I had children. I can only offer my personal experience which is that I was spanked, thrashed even, as a child but that didn't teach me to solve problems with violence. I'm a non-violent (fairly) well-adjusted adult now. Would I be the same if I had never been spanked? I just don't know!
as well as providing new archaeological information, the book "the ark before noah: decoding the story of the flood" by irving finkel (published 2014) provides material for those of us who are interested in the neo-babylonian period.
for example, one subheading is: "why were the judeans in babylon?
" (page 226).. dr irving finkel is assistant keeper of ancient mesopotamian script, languages, and cultures at the british museum.
Notsurewheretogo, it supported the theory that a Babylonian ark of a size that could hold a few local animals and a family could have existed and formed the basis for a larger myth.
The program did NOT support the biblical flood story with it's global flood and Tardis\ark.
i'm curious, why and how did you choose your username?.
does it hold any special significance for you, is there a share-able back story?.
for me sparrowdown is a playful reference to matt 10:29 and the title of the movie black hawk down.. matt 10:29 was my go-to scrip to "prove" that god cares about us as individuals.
ONAGER! The siege weapon which destroys the walls that hem...
Not really! My usual persona on internet forums is "CriticalSock" but I didn't want people here thinking that I'd be critical.
Or a sock...
hi guys,.
i am so out of touch with tv shows and i have got a lot of catching up to do.. some-one suggested dexter and it was fantastic and what an ending.
really loved it.
I n the recommendation for Game of Thrones (where n is the number of recommendations so far plus one). It's very well made and chock full of nudity, violence and swearing.
If you have Amazon Prime then Black Sails is great. It tells the story of what happened up to the beginning of the story of Treasure Island. High production values, lots of nudity, violence and swearing. :)
If you have access to 4OD then Hooo Mama!
Black Mirror - disturbing visions of the near future
Black Books - light hearted bookshop and booze comedy
Utopia - No-one but me seems to like this and I can't understand why. It's great storytelling damnit!!!
Garth Marenghi's Darkplace- Insanity. Proper, lick the windows madness.
a friend of mine (who is waking up), recently had the elders do a sheep herding visit.. they were browbeating my friend about attending meetings.
my friend has been ill and unable to attend anyway.. what response would you give to this garbage?.
if we were in a house and it was on fire and we couldnt walk we would have to crawl.. an example of a sister with an iron lung was brought up to show that if shes in this condition, we need to examine ourselves.
If we were in a house and it was on fire and we couldn’t walk we would have to crawl.
This IS me crawling!
An example of a sister with an iron lung was brought up to show that if she’s in this condition, we need to examine ourselves.
Thank you, I have examined myself and I am satisfied I am doing the best I can.
My friend apparently needs to pray for Holeeeeee Spirit to give the 'power beyond what is normal'.
I do pray for holy spirit, I must say Elder Bob, it sounds a lot like you're judging from appearances rather than seeing to the heart of the matter, like God does.
Going to meetings is not optional but a command. (I have to say I've never heard of it being a 'command' to attend).
Could you quote me the scripture that says that please Elder Bob? I would hate for you to stumble into pharasaical conduct without me having the chance to stop you with timely council.
We need to look at a divine hand in our life. Eldurr said that he shouldn’t be alive. In so many situations he can see God's hand in his life.
We do indeed. And look, you're alive and I'm alive... God is clearly taking care of both of us. Bye now!
i thought to give a more comprehensive summary, however this pretty well sums up the entire wasted day.. stand and sing.. prayer thanking the gb.. only jw's will survive "the end".. do more.
preach more.
indoctrinate your children more.
BU2B, I think what you need to do is Fade. I didn't, I just left but I wasn't married at the time. But I'm sure that there are a people on here with experience of fading while married to a JW so I hope they can give advice. In fact, that's what my father did so I know it can be done.
Personally I think that extreme actions are a bad idea. For a few seconds of venting your frustration you will create conflict and anger, both of which will make achieving your goal less likely (I'm presuming your goal is to stop being a JW but stay with your wife). What is your goal? Feeling anger and hurt is completely understandable but if you can put those feelings in a box and act reasonably and logically you're much more likely to achieve your aims.
I hope you get there because you have exactly as much right to happiness as your wife, everyone in your congregation and in fact everyone in the world. Fact.
