wife's committee meeting

by tepic 82 Replies latest members private

  • tepic
    tepic

    My wife and I really appreciate your supportive, helpful, caring comments. Much different than the 'hateful' apostates we are warned about. I see a lot more concern here than from the 'shepherds'. Some of your kind responses brought a tear to my eye.

    I would like to respond to each one (except one) (Dave & Gopher --ya'll did it for me very well--thanks)

    We are doing fine today, thanks. We are determined not to let these ***** ruin our happiness or our relationship with our Creator & Jesus.

    We really don't know where we are going with this yet. As with many others here, there is family to consider. I remember in COC (required reading BTW) Ray pointed out that you can be a Christian even as a JW if you know where to draw the line. The wheat and the weeds grow everywhere.

    Tepic

  • willyloman
    willyloman
    "To the extent that you did to least one of these my brothers you did it to me." Matt. 25:40.

    So basically Jesus was at the hall and needed love shown to him and the elders said they have other things to do. I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

    This is EXACTLY what you'd expect from guys who twisted that scripture to suggest it only applies to a tiny group of invisible people that no one knows or can really identify.

  • tepic
    tepic

    Since we moved from the great state of T, there are 2 committees involved. We studied with one member & his wife & helped them to baptism. Another (with his wife) we helped reactivate many years ago. Another was a close friend of mine & we served together in DC work, KH const, AH const, served on committees together. These guys are not 'jerks'. Why do some turn into maniacs when they 'get behind the wheel.' Righteous overmuch----power---etc.

    BTW---When served on JC's, I can honestly say that I tried to make the person feel at ease & that we really wanted to help. That said, I shared in quite a few DF, but always felt there was no choice.

  • loosie
    loosie

    RE: willyloman comment.

    I feel really stupid. My husband pointed out to me that they say Matt 25:40 applies only to the 144K. I didn't know that. I guess I always took Matt 25.40 at face value, that we should alwyas treat each other kindly not just the 144K. lol maybe I only paid attention when they were reading the bible and not the literature. my bad ...lol

  • 95stormfront
    95stormfront
    I swear if I ever end up in the backroom (probably never happen) again... about 15 minutes into it I'll just stand up, pull my pants down to my ankles and run screaming out of that room saying... oh gawd help me.. keep them away.. keep them away. Then call 911 and let them know how it feels for a change!

    roflmao

  • Heatmiser
    Heatmiser

    ((((tepic & wife))))

    I have seen this type of attitude in the JW's in my day but it still just shocks me how cold hearted these MF's where to your wife and you. What an Organization of love.

    Heatmiser

  • tepic
    tepic

    Loosie

    I feel really stupid. My husband pointed out to me that they say Matt 25:40 applies only to the 144K. I didn't know that. I guess I always took Matt 25.40 at face value

    "To the extent that you did to least one of these my brothers you did it to me." Matt. 25:40.

    So basically Jesus was at the hall and needed love shown to him and the elders said they have other things to do. I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

    Don't feel stupid. You got it right.

    Matthew 12:50) For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."

    That's watcha get for readin' the Bible C T Russell style. (No FDS)

  • SheilaM
    SheilaM

    I am sorry that she was subjected to such cruelty. I am perplexed why she went alone? I won't fault you for doing more in the hall, if you had they would have just called the police. I do wish you had called the Police and an Ambulance that way they could have documented what occured and the condition they left her in. Also, the information that they were totally unconcerened. I hope that you NEVER allow her in such a situation again. Please tell her that their condemnation means NOTHING and they had no right to treat her in such a manner.

  • indispair
    indispair

    I am very sorry for your wife having been put through that. It does not surprise me however, as my own mother, the lady who bore me through terrible times treats me the same way. I am df'd and the other day she came by to take me to lunch (which is not what she is supposed to do) and when I asked her why she tried to tell me her relationship with me is very limited and more a business arrangement than a family one and that she has a good relationship with both of my sisters, just not with me. This infuriated me and so I, who ususally holds back let her have what I thought about the people that she does associate who have "supposably repented" and how bad it hurt me that she spends time that she would consider familial not business like with those who are fake. For example, she plays cards every Saturday night with the man who went to the elders and told them lies that got me df'd to begin with. The real reason why, he made this all up because I would not sleep with him. When I started in on her religion ruling her and the organization and not Jesus she got so angry and yelled "his name is Jehovah" (we were at the park with my two year old daughter who was excited to play, we had been there five minutes). She demanded that I take her home. Later after I got her to calm down and told her she can not attack me and expect not to get attacked back, she offerred to study with me. I agreed as long as I could bring things to refute her. I told her no Watchtower, just the bible. That was Sunday, this is Monday, she just came by and brought me dinner and baby formula as I just had a newborn.

    My point, the elders are not going to listen if you can't get your own mother to. I have one question for both, what would Jesus do if he were standing there. I guarantee you he would have told them what he told the high priests "Let he who has not sinned, cast the first stone." I have come so close to having a nervous breakdown, my immune system is low and I get sick a lot, all because of the stress caused by disfellowshipping which is suppose to be like discipline which in its very meaning means to "teach", not to ignore and treat cruely.

    I wish your wife the best of health and happiness. Tell her to try and picture herself a child sitting in the arms of Jesus. He is kissing her tears away and telling her not to let any man come between her and her relationship with him. This is what I do and instantly I am given peace. If she goes before the elders again and they cut her off, tell her to try praying outloud and when they try to walk away, tell her to pray "Jehovah hear my prayers and help me to be heard so that I can serve you better as the men you have put in place to guide me are walking away from me." It lets them know what she needs and it makes them answer for what they are doing wrong.

    Love and laughter,

    Shelley

  • tepic
    tepic

    Shelley,

    I agree that a very important hump to get over is realizing that whatever the elders come up with really has no bearing on our being approved by Jesus & his Father. Then the fear is gone ---like 'what if I die in a DF state?' That can be a big problem as long as one really believes that these elders do for a fact represent our way of approach to God.

    Cheers

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