So seriously, I didn't try the smurf juice. What did it taste like?
Seattle Post Christmas Apostofest and Pictures
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Odrade
Rachel, it was a great party. Even Paterfamilias had a great time... you saw him, mingling. MINGLING!!! Anyone who has ever met my husband knows he doesn't mingle like that. In fact, I remarked to several that it's the first party we've ever been to (in seven years) where he didn't spend at least half the time glued to my left elbow. So thank you so much.
Kitties, wow. I wanted to post something like what you wrote last night when I saw Princess' original post go up. But I had a migraine and could make the words sound any better than "dkslafjk gaahahhh;kl blurp." Princess showed alot more class during the meltdown than I would have been capable of. I too am sorry that RHCP is in so much pain, but for some reason, Rachel became the brunt of it. Not fair at all. A public apology is fine for all of us who were involved only on the periphery, but imnsho, it does not suffice for those she specifically attacked.
When an incident this big happens at a party that was arranged as openly as this one was, it's inevitable that the event gets dissected on the same forum. I suspect that letting this thread run it's course (with some minimal intervention where it gets out of hand,) is probably the easiest way to let it die down.
Flower, I guess I'm singling you out, I know you're just saying what others who weren't there, are also thinking, but... you weren't there. Princess is a gracious and generous, fun-loving host. She's also a strong woman. But the venom directed at her made her cry. I'm betting it takes a hell of a lot to make Princess cry. If it had been me taking that kind of abuse, no matter if I understood that it was misdirected or not, there would have been police involved. People have a right to choose who they forgive--especially the very next day. You have a right not to interact with those sisters who were so horrible to you, and Princess has a right to do the same.
Princess and Steve, again, it was a great party. AND, I got to talk about fish... in several contexts! LOL! We had a wonderful time seeing everyone, chatting, eating... the only thing that could have improved it was a bottle of single-malt scotch, but I ain't breakin' out the good stuff when Gollum is sitting around draining the bottles!!! Next time, next time. It's on me! Got to see all my friends, and make a few new ones... Dark Uncle, it was a delight to meet you. Rockhounding, hmm? Well, sure! Little Toe, yep, to know you is to love you. I suspect I will never read another of your posts without wondering if you are laughing at your keyboard as you type, no matter the subject matter. Kat, the cheesecake and fudge... OMG sooooo good.
Euph and Piph, Doc and Kitties, Lost, one word... Beach. Write it down. Love you guys!
Hope to see some pics up soon. Start a new thread for the pics though. Ha!
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Xandria
While I was not there, I had a sister and a brother-in-law to be, who was. The pain we all come from is very real. Unfortunately, being drunk doesn't mean you are in full control of your functions, behavior and reasoning. It is not an excuse, but for future reference; when you are to meet people for the first time, this isn't a way to do it. I can understand reactions on all sides.
However with that being said, we cannot tell Rachel or anyone who was there, how to feel, react, or not react. Rachel worked hard to put this together. We can only hope that people can come to an understanding. Perhaps, declare a "do over" or if you cannot get beyond this, at least a time out. To put it all in perspective.
As first time meetings go, this started on the very wrong foot. But it doesn't mean it isn't recoverable from, if anger, humiliation, bewilderment, on all sides are allowed to cool.
RHCP, I would suggest to you go to therapy and assertiveness training. So you find the strength in yourself, to confront those who have done you wrong. Until you do, I don't think apostofests are going to be something that is fun, fullfilling. They may be reminders of the wrongs and pain you are feeling at this moment.
Things are too close to the surface and the pain is too raw. The alcohol will not help change what happened. Alchol will only numb for a short time. You have that power of change and future, even though you may not feel it now. As I say, to my sister: "We may not be able to change the past~ but we damn well can influence the future." The future is ours to make, we have the power of choice. There are some hard choices to make. But, the changes they bring are rewarding!
Chalk what happened as a learning experience. Use it to define~ the direction you need to go in, for a better future.
Regards,
Xandria
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Gretchen956
Wow. Maybe we can have an alcohol free one next time. I'm kinda glad this wasn't Kim's first experience meeting my friends on this board!
Princess and whomever else was there, I know how much work went into this, not just work but emotional involvement. To have it come to this is tragic. RHCP, I'm sorry that you had the meltdown, we do have to go through anger to get to acceptance, but sometimes to do that we need help. I hope that you get the help you need without too much self medication.
Peace,
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vitty
How many attended the party?
Ive often wondered if the reason this board is so good, is because we really dont know each other, we all imagine who that person is behind the avatar.
If we all had to see each other 3 times a week, like in the past! Where would we be ?
We all say there more love shown here than at the hall, but maybe thats because we dont have to "associate" with ones we dont like. Unlike the hall were we are made to
Just my 2cents worth
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vitty
When I went to a family wedding in the summer. I was so emotional, had one too many glasses of wine , cried like an idiot and procceded to tell all my non witness family how much I loved them.
But I love everyone when im drunk!
Now im terrified of drinking too much, so I dont
I could of easily have said things I didnt mean. This is the problem, we are all damaged when we come out, and we ALL do things we dont mean
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maybesbabies
Ive often wondered if the reason this board is so good, is because we really dont know each other, we all imagine who that person is behind the avatar.
If we all had to see each other 3 times a week, like in the past! Where would we be ?
We all say there more love shown here than at the hall, but maybe thats because we dont have to "associate" with ones we dont like. Unlike the hall were we are made to
Well, many of us who were at the party have met in the past, and many still are in contact on a regular basis. This was an anomaly, not the rule. There is a lot of love shown to one another, and not because they are members of the board, but because we've gotten to know each other off the board. I hope this doesn't discourage anyone from meeting up or attending future 'fests. Princess has every right to be angry. But I want you to know, Princess, that it didn't ruin anything, we had a great time anyways!
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vitty
So how many did attend?????????
Im glad you had a good time, when you get together do you talk about the truth a lot, I dont mean at a party , but when you see each other. Do you feel that conection like you do when you met someone in the truth
I remember at a build someone just gave my husband a key to a house, he let himself in, there was cooked meal waiting for him, and a bed. The owners where away on hoilday but trusted him.
Would you do that for someone on this board if you had never met him before, justa thought
I do spend too much time on this site, my husband doesnt feel the need, infact when I have a querey on something, non religious, hes says, " why dont you ask your friends"
that is so weird cos i havent met anyone YET!!!!!!
Sorry if Ive gone off subject, I might start a new topic!
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candidlynuts
hugs everyone involved!
i hope to meet as many as possible someday when i'm in a position to be sociable.
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flower
But just a few weeks ago you were starting a thread with these words:
Just thought I'd share. In case anyone else out there has three sisters that are braindead bitches too...I know how you feel. I havent talked to two of the three braindead bitches for a couple of years (ever since that goddamn article came out in the KM) but one of the braindead bitches lives about 10 mins from me.
Ozzie..I dont know what your point is except to make my own point for me. As much as abuse as I have taken from my sisters, father and other relatives (and trust me its been much worse than being cussed out or made to cry) IF they EVER were to sincerely apologize I would be right there accepting that. It takes a lot more courage, strength and guts to apologize to someone than MOST people have..especially when you are completely in the wrong and you know it or when you have done something really terrible and know it. My father and sisters are horribly hateful people who have done much more harm to me than has been done in this case so there is no comparing these situations. Even so, if an apology ever came I would not throw it in their face and tell them they owe me more than that, even if they do.
Flower, I guess I'm singling you out, I know you're just saying what others who weren't there, are also thinking, but... you weren't there. Princess is a gracious and generous, fun-loving host. She's also a strong woman. But the venom directed at her made her cry.
I'm betting it takes a hell of a lot to make Princess cry. If it had been me taking that kind of abuse, no matter if I understood that it was misdirected or not, there would have been police involved. People have a right to choose who they forgive--especially the very next day. You have a right not to interact with those sisters who were so horrible to you, and Princess has a right to do the same.
Odrade, I respect your opinion and you are correct, I wasnt there which is why I prefaced my remarks in that regard. However, I have been there (at apostafests) and been on the recieving end of 'venom' remarks from people talking about me to the point where I was in tears also because of the meanspiritedness of some certain 'sweet, gracious' people who didnt expect I could hear what they were saying about me. You are right though..people can choose to forgive or not and just because I have forgiven worse doesnt mean that everyone has the same level of what they will forgive. I apologize for jumping in on a topic that wasnt my business.