The mixed evidence of the influence of racial stereotypes calls into question their measurement and meaning. Many people don?t get that there was a veiled prejudice in what Corvin stated. Even though he used Hispanic as a term to describe the woman. He had a prejudice against her due to her religion and was angry because she had the temerity to preach back. The hatred that spewed forth came out as: She was a moron because she had a language barrier, she was stupid~ why because she took the time to try to speak to Mike? How is that not irrational? Last time, I looked they were standing in a public place. Prejudice comes in many forms. The term very, very Hispanic stood out in is diatribe against this woman. Like she should be punished for being Hispanic and a Jehovah?s Witness~ He is prejudiced on her being a JW. The rest was just icing. How is hate going to help? Is hating her going to change the facts? No.
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And the very very very very hispanic woman's question was extremely stupid and typical of morons who just happen to be hispanic Jehovah's Witnesses.
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If you are planting seeds do it with out the stereotypes.. or hatred. Many of us still have family in and they aren't stupid or morons, they are just very lost.
BTW, I am LATINO and was a JW or as you put it, HISPANIC JW's.
And the very very very very hispanic woman's question was extremely stupid and typical of morons who just happen to be hispanic Jehovah's Witnesses.
So by that above reasoning, I am a moron also? Please clarify. Before, I take severe offense to that statement.
Just because she is Hispanic/ Latino and JW doesn't give you the right to trash her
. Or those who share the same ethnic background and once shared the same religion too.
It does not mean were morons, because we once believed in something we were mislead on. What you wrote smacks of bigotry over her race and her religion. To show contempt, arrogance and superiority ~ is different than them? How so?
Sincerely,
X.
I gave you the opportunity to redeem yourself and explain. Instead I got attacked, I got excuses and no real tangible reason for this intense dislike~ except that she was a Hispanic JW and a moron. Is she responsible for what happened to your children? No. What she is responsible for is her actions and her life.
She is in bondage to a belief. I don't think anyone would listen when attacked and Mike could have easily presented his points with out attack.
Bigotry: 1 : the state of mind of a bigot 2 : acts or beliefs characteristic of a bigot.
Bigot:
a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices
You just did not attack her over, her race Corvin. You attacked her because of your anger with the witnesses. Her ethnic background was just another reason to ridicule her, because she could not speak English well, and you were pissed off over the fact that someone tried to reason and even presented her thoughts and views. Instead of looking at it as an opportunity to share, just like she did, you presented it to us all, as boasting. That this dumb woman dared speak, well hum, aren't you speaking out as well ? Why is your freedom of speech and thought more important ?
Protest the WTS, but don?t attack individual people, not everyone is a horrible person in this religion. They are just horribly mislead. You know just how hard it is to break free from it. You cannot bully them into changing their views. By attacking them you, will make them more apt to hold on to this religion, because they are being persecuted.
You have to plant seeds, to make them open their eyes~give them options, as to how to get out, etc. Otherwise you will be just another nutjob, shouting at the side of the street.
Corvin you are angry ( I understand why and have been there myself). Yet lashing out at anyone and any person who has a different view, thought or feeling, is wrong. When we bring it to your attention, you project that, you are the one being attacked, others are the ones being ?hyper-sensitive?, etc. With out realizing you are being so defensive that you aren?t listening what the person is saying. In fact you are being so hypersensitive yourself, that you are blocking what the person is saying to you.
Twisting it, by claiming we are: Attacking you, not supporting you, calling you a racist, when you are being HIGHLY prejudiced and ultra bigoted.
Reacting automatically in anger and defensiveness, will not further your goals. Anger is a completely normal, usually healthy, human emotion. But when it gets out of control and turns destructive, it can lead to problems?problems at work, in your personal relationships, and in the overall quality of your life.
The instinctive, natural way to express anger is to respond aggressively. Anger is a natural, adaptive response to threats; it inspires powerful, often aggressive, feelings and behaviors, which allow us to fight and to defend ourselves when we are attacked. A certain amount of anger, therefore, is necessary to our survival.
On the other hand, we can't physically lash out at every person or object that irritates or annoys us; laws, social norms, and common sense place limits on how far our anger can take us.
People use a variety of both conscious and unconscious processes to deal with their angry feelings. The three main approaches are expressing, suppressing, and calming. Expressing your angry feelings in an assertive?not aggressive?manner is the healthiest way to express anger. To do this, you have to learn how to make clear what your needs are, and how to get them met, without hurting others. Being assertive doesn't mean being pushy or demanding; it means being respectful of yourself and others.
Unexpressed anger can create other problems. It can lead to pathological expressions of anger, such as passive-aggressive behavior (getting back at people indirectly, without telling them why, rather than confronting them head-on) or a personality that seems perpetually cynical and hostile. People who are constantly putting others down, criticizing everything, and making cynical comments haven't learned how to constructively express their anger. Not surprisingly, they aren't likely to have many successful relationships.
Logic defeats anger, because anger, even when it's justified, can quickly become irrational. So use cold hard logic on yourself. Remind yourself that the world is "not out to get you," you're just experiencing some of the rough spots of daily life.
Do this each time you feel anger getting the best of you, and it'll help you get a more balanced perspective. Angry people tend to demand things: fairness, appreciation, agreement, willingness to do things their way. Everyone wants these things, and we are all hurt and disappointed when we don't get them, but angry people demand them, and when their demands aren't met, their disappointment becomes anger and the cycle of lashing out continues.
Sometimes, our anger and frustration are caused by very real and inescapable problems in our lives. Not all anger is misplaced, and often it's a healthy, natural response to these difficulties. There is also a cultural belief that every problem has a solution, and it adds to our frustration to find out that this isn't always the case. The best attitude to bring to such a situation, then, is not to focus on finding the solution, but rather on how you handle and face the problem.
Make a plan, and check your progress along the way. Resolve to give it your best, but also not to punish yourself if an answer doesn't come right away. If you can approach it with your best intentions and efforts and make a serious attempt to face it head-on, you will be less likely to lose patience and fall into all-or-nothing thinking, even if the problem does not get solved right away.
Angry people tend to jump to?and act on?conclusions, and some of those conclusions can be very inaccurate. The first thing to do if you're in a heated discussion is slow down and think through your responses. Don't say the first thing that comes into your head, but slow down and think carefully about what you want to say. At the same time, listen carefully to what the other person is saying and take your time before answering.
Regards,
X.
