And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery:

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  • myelaine

    Chronologically the book of Revelation speaks of Gods wrath being poured out on the harlot after she is identified. Then what could be described as the Great Tribulation is ushered in. God lets go His judgement on an unbelieving and ungodly people.(2 Thes. 1:7-8) The church is spared, because (Romans 8:1) There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

    I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

    Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, licentiousness, idolitry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

    But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, selfcontrol. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

    For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God.

    Now, If I am wrong about who the harlot is, then so be it. If I am right then, would you want to see your people, your family, struck down as revealed in Gods Word? Men, "stand up" and get your family out of the harlot. God is saying," Get out of her My people", why would you not listen to Him? God has your best interests in mind! Please!

    love michelle

  • Farkel


    : But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, selfcontrol. Against such there is no law.

    Notice it says nothing about "goofiness."


  • myelaine


    As a matter of fact, I was nicknamed "Mickey" when I was a kid, because of the way I was. No one ever called me Goofy though.


  • myelaine

    A beloved friend and mentor, once said: "Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written

    "He catches the wise in their own craftiness... and again,

    The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile."

    We are fools for Christ's sake, but you are wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are distinguished, but we are dishonored!

    For the kingdom of God is not in word but in power.

    I do not write these things to shame you, but as my beloved children I warn you. Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.

    Therefore let no one glory in men. For all things are yours: whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas, or the world or life or death, or things present or things to come-all are yours. And you are Christ's, and Christ is God's. "

    love michelle

  • Valis

    Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, licentiousness, idolitry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries

    You know they say faith without works of the flesh is dead boring..


    District Overbeer

  • myelaine


    unfortunately you have made yourself EXHIBIT A, a fish right out of the sea. A foolish, worldly person. As opposed to a fool for Christ.

    love michelle

    p.s. like Valis, I used to partake of evil to the ninth degree. Please don't think I am picking on you in particular, Valis.

  • Valis
    EXHIBIT A, a fish right out of the sea.

    How did you know I was a Pisces?

    A foolish, worldly person. As opposed to a fool for Christ.

    Eh you certaily fit that last bit....


    District Overbeer

  • myelaine

    1 The word of the LORD that came to Micah of Moresheth in the days of Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, which he saw concerning Samaria and Jerusalem.

    The Coming Judgment on Israel
    2 Hear, all you peoples!
    Listen, O earth, and all that is in it!
    Let the Lord GOD be a witness against you,
    The Lord from His holy temple.

    3 For behold, the LORD is coming out of His place;
    He will come down
    And tread on the high places of the earth.

    4 The mountains will melt under Him,
    And the valleys will split
    Like wax before the fire,
    Like waters poured down a steep place.
    5 All this is for the transgression of Jacob
    And for the sins of the house of Israel.
    What is the transgression of Jacob?
    Is it not Samaria?
    And what are the high places of Judah?
    Are they not Jerusalem?

    6 "Therefore I will make Samaria a heap of ruins in the field,
    Places for planting a vineyard;
    I will pour down her stones into the valley,
    And I will uncover her foundations.
    7 All her carved images shall be beaten to pieces,
    And all her pay as a harlot shall be burned with the fire;
    All her idols I will lay desolate,
    For she gathered it from the pay of a harlot,
    And they shall return to the pay of a harlot."

    Mourning for Israel and Judah
    8 Therefore I will wail and howl,
    I will go stripped and naked;
    I will make a wailing like the jackals
    And a mourning like the ostriches,
    9 For her wounds are incurable.
    For it has come to Judah;
    It has come to the gate of My people--
    To Jerusalem.

    10 Tell it not in Gath,
    Weep not at all;
    In Beth Aphrah [1]
    Roll yourself in the dust.
    11 Pass by in naked shame, you inhabitant of Shaphir;
    The inhabitant of Zaanan [2] does not go out.
    Beth Ezel mourns;
    Its place to stand is taken away from you.

    12 For the inhabitant of Maroth pined [3] for good,
    But disaster came down from the LORD
    To the gate of Jerusalem.
    13 O inhabitant of Lachish,
    Harness the chariot to the swift steeds
    (She was the beginning of sin to the daughter of Zion),
    For the transgressions of Israel were found in you.

    14 Therefore you shall give presents to Moresheth Gath; [4]
    The houses of Achzib [5] shall be a lie to the kings of Israel.
    15 I will yet bring an heir to you, O inhabitant of Mareshah; [6]
    The glory of Israel shall come to Adullam.
    16 Make yourself bald and cut off your hair,
    Because of your precious children;
    Enlarge your baldness like an eagle,
    For they shall go from you into captivity.

    Micah 2

    Woe to Evildoers

    Woe to the Oppressor of the Poor
    1 Woe to those who devise iniquity,
    And work out evil on their beds!
    At morning light they practice it,
    Because it is in the power of their hand.
    2 They covet fields and take them by violence,
    Also houses, and seize them.
    So they oppress a man and his house,
    A man and his inheritance.

    3 Therefore thus says the LORD:

    "Behold, against this family I am devising disaster,
    From which you cannot remove your necks;
    Nor shall you walk haughtily,
    For this is an evil time.
    4 In that day one shall take up a proverb against you,
    And lament with a bitter lamentation, saying:
    "We are utterly destroyed!
    He has changed the heritage of my people;
    How He has removed it from me!
    To a turncoat He has divided our fields."'

    5 Therefore you will have no one to determine boundaries [7] by lot
    In the assembly of the LORD.

    Lying Prophets
    6 "Do not prattle," you say to those who prophesy.
    So they shall not prophesy to you; [8]
    They shall not return insult for insult. [9]
    7 You who are named the house of Jacob:
    "Is the Spirit of the LORD restricted?
    Are these His doings?
    Do not My words do good
    To him who walks uprightly?

    8 "Lately My people have risen up as an enemy--
    You pull off the robe with the garment
    From those who trust you, as they pass by,
    Like men returned from war.
    9 The women of My people you cast out
    From their pleasant houses;
    From their children
    You have taken away My glory forever.

    10 "Arise and depart,
    For this is not your rest;
    Because it is defiled, it shall destroy,
    Yes, with utter destruction.
    11 If a man should walk in a false spirit
    And speak a lie, saying,
    "I will prophesy to you of wine and drink,'
    Even he would be the prattler of this people.

    Israel Restored
    12 "I will surely assemble all of you, O Jacob,
    I will surely gather the remnant of Israel;
    I will put them together like sheep of the fold, [10]
    Like a flock in the midst of their pasture;
    They shall make a loud noise because of so many people.
    13 The one who breaks open will come up before them;
    They will break out,
    Pass through the gate,
    And go out by it;
    Their king will pass before them,
    With the LORD at their head."

    Micah 3

    Wicked Rulers and Prophets

    Wicked Rulers and Prophets
    1 And I said:

    "Hear now, O heads of Jacob,
    And you rulers of the house of Israel:
    Is it not for you to know justice?
    2 You who hate good and love evil;
    Who strip the skin from My people, [11]
    And the flesh from their bones;
    3 Who also eat the flesh of My people,
    Flay their skin from them,
    Break their bones,
    And chop them in pieces
    Like meat for the pot,
    Like flesh in the caldron."

    4 Then they will cry to the LORD,
    But He will not hear them;
    He will even hide His face from them at that time,
    Because they have been evil in their deeds.

    5 Thus says the LORD concerning the prophets
    Who make my people stray;
    Who chant "Peace"
    While they chew with their teeth,
    But who prepare war against him
    Who puts nothing into their mouths:
    6 "Therefore you shall have night without vision,
    And you shall have darkness without divination;
    The sun shall go down on the prophets,
    And the day shall be dark for them.
    7 So the seers shall be ashamed,
    And the diviners abashed;
    Indeed they shall all cover their lips;
    For there is no answer from God."

    8 But truly I am full of power by the Spirit of the LORD,
    And of justice and might,
    To declare to Jacob his transgression
    And to Israel his sin.
    9 Now hear this,
    You heads of the house of Jacob
    And rulers of the house of Israel,
    Who abhor justice
    And pervert all equity,
    10 Who build up Zion with bloodshed
    And Jerusalem with iniquity:
    11 Her heads judge for a bribe,
    Her priests teach for pay,
    And her prophets divine for money.
    Yet they lean on the LORD, and say,
    "Is not the LORD among us?
    No harm can come upon us."
    12 Therefore because of you
    Zion shall be plowed like a field,
    Jerusalem shall become heaps of ruins,
    And the mountain of the temple [12]
    Like the bare hills of the forest.

    Micah 4

    The LORD's Reign in Zion

    Swords into Plowshares
    (1) 1 Now it shall come to pass in the latter days
    That the mountain of the LORD's house
    Shall be established on the top of the mountains,
    And shall be exalted above the hills;
    And peoples shall flow to it.
    2 Many nations shall come and say,
    "Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD,
    To the house of the God of Jacob;
    He will teach us His ways,
    And we shall walk in His paths."
    For out of Zion the law shall go forth,
    And the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
    3 He shall judge between many peoples,
    And rebuke strong nations afar off;
    They shall beat their swords into plowshares,
    And their spears into pruning hooks;
    Nation shall not lift up sword against nation,
    Neither shall they learn war anymore. [13]

    4 But everyone shall sit under his vine and under his fig tree,
    And no one shall make them afraid;
    For the mouth of the LORD of hosts has spoken.
    5 For all people walk each in the name of his god,
    But we will walk in the name of the LORD our God
    Forever and ever.

    Zion's Future Triumph
    6 "In that day," says the LORD,
    "I will assemble the lame,
    I will gather the outcast
    And those whom I have afflicted;
    7 I will make the lame a remnant,
    And the outcast a strong nation;
    So the LORD will reign over them in Mount Zion
    From now on, even forever.
    8 And you, O tower of the flock,
    The stronghold of the daughter of Zion,
    To you shall it come,
    Even the former dominion shall come,
    The kingdom of the daughter of Jerusalem."

    9 Now why do you cry aloud?
    Is there no king in your midst?
    Has your counselor perished?
    For pangs have seized you like a woman in labor.
    10 Be in pain, and labor to bring forth,
    O daughter of Zion,
    Like a woman in birth pangs.
    For now you shall go forth from the city,
    You shall dwell in the field,
    And to Babylon you shall go.
    There you shall be delivered;
    There the LORD will redeem you
    From the hand of your enemies.

    11 Now also many nations have gathered against you,
    Who say, "Let her be defiled,
    And let our eye look upon Zion
    12 But they do not know the thoughts of the LORD,
    Nor do they understand His counsel;
    For He will gather them like sheaves to the threshing floor.

    13 "Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion;
    For I will make your horn iron,
    And I will make your hooves bronze;
    You shall beat in pieces many peoples;
    I will consecrate their gain to the LORD,
    And their substance to the Lord of the whole earth."

    Micah 5

    The Messiah Will Be Born at Bethlehem
    1 Now gather yourself in troops,
    O daughter of troops;
    He has laid siege against us;
    They will strike the judge of Israel with a rod on the cheek.

    The Coming Messiah
    2 "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
    Though you are little among the thousands of Judah,
    Yet out of you shall come forth to Me
    The One to be Ruler in Israel,
    Whose goings forth are from of old,
    From everlasting."

    3 Therefore He shall give them up,
    Until the time that she who is in labor has given birth;
    Then the remnant of His brethren
    Shall return to the children of Israel.
    4 And He shall stand and feed His flock
    In the strength of the LORD,
    In the majesty of the name of the LORD His God;
    And they shall abide,
    For now He shall be great
    To the ends of the earth;
    5 And this One shall be peace.

    When the Assyrian comes into our land,
    And when he treads in our palaces,
    Then we will raise against him
    Seven shepherds and eight princely men.

    Judgment on Israel's Enemies
    6 They shall waste with the sword the land of Assyria,
    And the land of Nimrod at its entrances;
    Thus He shall deliver us from the Assyrian,
    When he comes into our land
    And when he treads within our borders.

    7 Then the remnant of Jacob
    Shall be in the midst of many peoples
    Like dew from the LORD,
    Like showers on the grass,
    That tarry for no man
    Nor wait for the sons of men.
    8 And the remnant of Jacob
    Shall be among the Gentiles
    In the midst of many peoples,
    Like a lion among the beasts of the forest,
    Like a young lion among flocks of sheep,
    Who, if he passes through,
    Both treads down and tears in pieces,
    And none can deliver.
    9 Your hand shall be lifted against your adversaries,
    And all your enemies shall be cut off.

    10 "And it shall be in that day," says the LORD,
    "That I will cut off your horses from your midst
    And destroy your chariots.
    11 I will cut off the cities of your land
    And throw down all your strongholds.
    12 I will cut off sorceries from your hand,
    And you shall have no soothsayers.
    13 Your carved images I will also cut off,
    And your sacred pillars from your midst;
    You shall no more worship the work of your hands;
    14 I will pluck your wooden images [14] from your midst;
    Thus I will destroy your cities.
    15 And I will execute vengeance in anger and fury
    On the nations that have not heard." [15]

    Micah 6

    God Pleads with Israel

    God Pleads with Israel
    1 Hear now what the LORD says:

    "Arise, plead your case before the mountains,
    And let the hills hear your voice.
    2 Hear, O you mountains, the LORD's complaint,
    And you strong foundations of the earth;
    For the LORD has a complaint against His people,
    And He will contend with Israel.

    3 "O My people, what have I done to you?
    And how have I wearied you?
    Testify against Me.
    4 For I brought you up from the land of Egypt,
    I redeemed you from the house of bondage;
    And I sent before you Moses, Aaron, and Miriam.
    5 O My people, remember now
    What Balak king of Moab counseled,
    And what Balaam the son of Beor answered him,
    From Acacia Grove [16] to Gilgal,
    That you may know the righteousness of the LORD."

    6 With what shall I come before the LORD,
    And bow myself before the High God?
    Shall I come before Him with burnt offerings,
    With calves a year old?
    7 Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams,
    Ten thousand rivers of oil?
    Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression,
    The fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?

    8 He has shown you, O man, what is good;
    And what does the LORD require of you
    But to do justly,
    To love mercy,
    And to walk humbly with your God?

    Punishment of Israel's Injustice
    9 The LORD's voice cries to the city--
    Wisdom shall see Your name:

    "Hear the rod!
    Who has appointed it?
    10 Are there yet the treasures of wickedness
    In the house of the wicked,
    And the short measure that is an abomination?
    11 Shall I count pure those with the wicked scales,
    And with the bag of deceitful weights?
    12 For her rich men are full of violence,
    Her inhabitants have spoken lies,
    And their tongue is deceitful in their mouth.

    13 "Therefore I will also make you sick by striking you,
    By making you desolate because of your sins.
    14 You shall eat, but not be satisfied;
    Hunger [17] shall be in your midst.
    You may carry some away, [18] but shall not save them;
    And what you do rescue I will give over to the sword.

    15 "You shall sow, but not reap;
    You shall tread the olives, but not anoint yourselves with oil;
    And make sweet wine, but not drink wine.
    16 For the statutes of Omri are kept;
    All the works of Ahab's house are done;
    And you walk in their counsels,
    That I may make you a desolation,
    And your inhabitants a hissing.
    Therefore you shall bear the reproach of My people." [19]

    Micah 7

    Sorrow for Israel's Sins

    God Will Forgive Israel
    1 Woe is me!
    For I am like those who gather summer fruits,
    Like those who glean vintage grapes;
    There is no cluster to eat
    Of the first-ripe fruit which my soul desires.
    2 The faithful man has perished from the earth,
    And there is no one upright among men.
    They all lie in wait for blood;
    Every man hunts his brother with a net.

    3 That they may successfully do evil with both hands--
    The prince asks for gifts,
    The judge seeks a bribe,
    And the great man utters his evil desire;
    So they scheme together.
    4 The best of them is like a brier;
    The most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge;
    The day of your watchman and your punishment comes;
    Now shall be their perplexity.

    5 Do not trust in a friend;
    Do not put your confidence in a companion;
    Guard the doors of your mouth
    From her who lies in your bosom.
    6 For son dishonors father,
    Daughter rises against her mother,
    Daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;
    A man's enemies are the men of his own household.
    7 Therefore I will look to the LORD;
    I will wait for the God of my salvation;
    My God will hear me.

    Israel's Confession and Comfort
    8 Do not rejoice over me, my enemy;
    When I fall, I will arise;
    When I sit in darkness,
    The LORD will be a light to me.
    9 I will bear the indignation of the LORD,
    Because I have sinned against Him,
    Until He pleads my case
    And executes justice for me.
    He will bring me forth to the light;
    I will see His righteousness.
    10 Then she who is my enemy will see,
    And shame will cover her who said to me,
    "Where is the LORD your God?"
    My eyes will see her;
    Now she will be trampled down
    Like mud in the streets.

    11 In the day when your walls are to be built,
    In that day the decree shall go far and wide. [20]
    12 In that day they [21] shall come to you
    From Assyria and the fortified cities, [22]
    From the fortress [23] to the River, [24]
    From sea to sea,
    And mountain to mountain.
    13 Yet the land shall be desolate
    Because of those who dwell in it,
    And for the fruit of their deeds.

    God Will Forgive Israel
    14 Shepherd Your people with Your staff,
    The flock of Your heritage,
    Who dwell solitarily in a woodland,
    In the midst of Carmel;
    Let them feed in Bashan and Gilead,
    As in days of old.

    15 "As in the days when you came out of the land of Egypt,
    I will show them [25] wonders."

    16 The nations shall see and be ashamed of all their might;
    They shall put their hand over their mouth;
    Their ears shall be deaf.
    17 They shall lick the dust like a serpent;
    They shall crawl from their holes like snakes of the earth.
    They shall be afraid of the LORD our God,
    And shall fear because of You.
    18 Who is a God like You,
    Pardoning iniquity
    And passing over the transgression of the remnant of His heritage?

    He does not retain His anger forever,
    Because He delights in mercy.
    19 He will again have compassion on us,
    And will subdue our iniquities.

    You will cast all our [26] sins
    Into the depths of the sea.
    20 You will give truth to Jacob
    And mercy to Abraham,
    Which You have sworn to our fathers
    From days of old.

    Then I saw another angel flying in heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth- to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people- saying with a loud voice, "Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgement has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water." And another angel followed, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she has made all the nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication."

  • Valis
  • Big Tex
    Big Tex

    Okay. There's no discussion here and hasn't for some time. Now there is only needless spamming to bump this thread up.

    I'm locking this thread.

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