Wasn't Saddam ousted for doing precisely this sort of thing?

by Simon 398 Replies latest social current

  • Realist
    Realist

    dubla,

    oops missed that about the second one!

    crazy,

    russia was not badly equipped. they had a 3 to 1 supermacy in tanks and planes. though not quite as good as the german tanks still sufficient to win a war.

    yes the winter was a crutial problem. also if japan would have attacked russia instead of starting a war with the US the war might have ended differently.

    the idea that the germans wanted to terminate the jewish race is a) based on a single testimony and b) could not have been achieved in any case since only 4 million jews were ever in german controlled territory.

    the allies did not try to exterminate the germans but it tried to kill as many civilians as possible. imo quite comparable to what the germans did with the jews.

  • truthseeker1
    truthseeker1

    Realist, you have a very interesting interpretation of history.

  • Realist
    Realist

    truthseeker,

    history is written by the winners. i don't buy 100% of what the main stream teaching is about WWII.

  • Simon
    Simon
    when saddam was stockpiling such weapons he had every intent to fire them properly (actually he already has in the iran-iraq war

    One or two shells does not make a "stockpile". You are using words like that to bolster your weak case. We know they were used in the war with Iran (wasn't this shortly before or after Rumsfeld visited him and shook his hand?). These shells are leftovers from that conflict.

  • Pleasuredome
    Pleasuredome
    Realist, you have a very interesting interpretation of history.

    well, lets face it, either it's going to be his own, or someone else's interpretation.

  • dubla
    dubla

    simon-

    One or two shells does not make a "stockpile". You are using words like that to bolster your weak case. We know they were used in the war with Iran

    i think youre under the misconception that every "stockpile" that is referred to by me (or government officials, unscom, the u.n., etc.) is automatically a stockpile saddam created after a certain date. the fact is, many of the unaccounted for stockpiles that saddam was asked to account for were indeed "old". the problem was, he couldnt do it. hiding the weapons, or in this case (if this is your opinion), not being able to account for them, was the issue.

    aa

  • Richie
    Richie

    One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is the bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program". President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    "We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions(including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspected Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter sent to President Clinton, signed by Sen. Carl Levin, Tom Dashle, John Kerry, and others. Oct. 9, 1998

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA), Sept. 27, 2002

    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-if necessary-to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our country." Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA), Oct. 9, 2002

    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorist, including al Qaeda members..it is clear, however, that if left unchecked. Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Oct. 10, 2002

    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL), Dec. 8, 2002

    "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime...He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation...and now he is calculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction...So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA), Jan. 23, 2003

    ADDITIONAL STATEMENTS...

    "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten time since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb18,1998

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." > - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D- FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI), Sept. 19, 2002

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D- WV), Oct. 3, 2002

    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), Oct 10, 2002

    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" - Rep. Henry Waxman (D- CA), Oct. 10, 2002

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge

    Watch out Richie, there are those on this board who will say that you probably made up those quotes. btw, THANKS!

  • Realist
    Realist

    richie,

    if your point is to show that all US politicians are full of shit i congratulate you!

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