BUSH MOST ADMIRED MAN IN THE US (page 8)

drwtsn32

Actually, I'm the most admired man in the US.

Have you been hanging around pleasuredome?

Aztec

Actually, I'm the most admired man in the US.

Put a sock in it you egomanical twerp. I was looking for an antonym for 'good at spelling' but I couldn't find any. D'oh!

~Aztec

Aztec

Doc,

Have you been hanging around pleasuredome?

PD is the most admired man in the UK! Big differance!

~Aztec

imallgrowedup

Aztec -

So it was perfectly concionable to do so before? Hmmm....

It was perfectly legal! We weren't any more able to see the future and how despicable Saddam was going to turn out to be than the next guy. At least when our "allies" were supplying him, they KNEW and did it anyway - against international law, I might add. IMHO, that's a big difference.

growedup

DakotaRed

Dakota ... you are going back over 50 and nearly 100 years !! How long to do intend to keep harping on about this?

Seems to me, it wasn't all that long ago you were the one consistently harping on the US dropping the A Bomb over 50 years ago. But, how long will I keep "harping" on it? Just as long as I see European countries repeating the same mistakes that sucked the rest of the world into those wars. Frankly, I don't care to see any Americans go back to Europe to help liberate it from aother oppressive regime that could have been stopped years earlier.

You really seem to be quite ignorant of the fact that the only reason you entered the second world war was because you were attacked. Prior to that WE were the only people fighting Nazi Germany and kepping them from YOUR door but we're not so rude as to insist on daily thanks for whatever subject happens to come up

Quite the contrary, my dear Simon. I also know it was the US arming Britain and American volunteers, even if small in number, that helped Britain during that time, long before Pearl Harbor. I also doubt the average Brit was the least bit concerned with keeping Hitler away from the shores of the US at the time.

Under the Lend-Lease Act, US Navy vessels escorted convoys os arms to England and tangled with German U-Boats, RAF pilots trained in the US, and British and American military leaders exchanged scientific, military and intelligence information, all long before Pearl Harbor (pg 131, The American Heritage Picture History of World War Two by C.L. Sulzberger, 1966)

Imagine the pain and suffering Europe could have been spared had Chamberlain not tried so hard to appease Hitler. Given the stance of many towards another tyrants overthrow today, it's a wonder you all aren't goose-stepping today.

Simon

It was perfectly legal! We weren't any more able to see the future and how despicable Saddam was going to turn out to be than the next guy.

Maybe legal ... but totally immoral and the administration KNEW what he was like just like they knew what other dictators they have supported or installed are like. They do not care one jot for the people that their messed up policies affect so all this "we've removed Saddam for the Iraqi people, aren't we great" talk is a bit hollow. They put him there and kept him there for their own ends so they share the responsibility for the attrocities that he committed with their weapons.

DakotaRed: You seem to be one of the closed-minded "war is always right, especially my side" types. The US has faught plenty of unnecessary wars and backed the wrong side. If you can't admit that then you really need to go and learn some history.

On whatever scale you want to measure it, the US is one of the biggest rogue states and sponsors of terrorism that the planet has seen.

DakotaRed

Let's not play strawman, Dakota. I don't suggest that the US should be Europe's lapdog. I don't suggest that the US ask for orders from the European Union.

Then, exactly what do you mean by it should be a wake up call? What is we need to wake up to?

You seem to suggest that Europe doesn't like us because they are "jealous of us" and "want to take away [our wealth, position, etc] instead of earning their own." I find this suggestion to be ludicrous.

You may find it "ludicrous," but many others don't

http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=5223&catcode=11

http://www.polanalysis.net/PCVol4Is142CarubaEurope.shtml

http://www.pejmanesque.com/archives/004213.html

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000039&cid=ferguson&sid=aAGurIsiSYgA

http://www.balancedpolitics.org/sole_superpower.htm

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/06/273429.html

Simon

Wow ... Dakota Red found some links ... it must be true then

I think you will find that OUR opinion of what WE want is more correct than your convenient theory of what you imagine that we want.

You wouldn't like it if we started telling you what YOUR intentions were over what you did would you? Of course not ... you always demand different rules for yourself.

Maybe Europe should start saying that America is emotionally and intellectually immature and has some growing up to do? Yes ... and all we need to do is find some links that say the same thing and that proves it 100% ...

plmkrzy

On whatever scale you want to measure it, the US is one of the biggest rogue states and sponsors of terrorism that the planet has seen

yep why just the other day I watched a report on 60 minutes about all the women in the US who host designer purse/hand bag knockoff parties and all the proceedes go to support terrorism. The CIA and FBI are really cracking down on all the housewives.

Yerusalyim

Yerusalyim quitely wonders if SaintSatan also received a warning for his blanket insults in this thread...things that make ya go hmmmmm

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