It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened 11530 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • Journeyman

    I see he has posted another pic of himself in his 'former life' as a JW.

    Sadly, this just goes to show how far he has fallen (at least in terms of health and appearance) - in the old photo, he may look like your typical over-groomed nerdy JW male, but at least he seemed to be a healthy weight, clean-cut and more professional in appearance, and had generally fewer signs of stress and premature ageing.

    Compare that with photos from his more recent years:

    It's no wonder that many have observed he is now a poster boy for the GB to warn about 'mentally diseased' apostates!

  • Tamalam

    It's hours later I'm still blown away by the stupidity of writing 'desired' on his goal of money he wants to receive...

    We here at lazy-bastard-LTD desire more of your cash. Hand it over here:

    Just wow.

  • Toblerone5

    As seen on his new interview video today... REAL you can see it in video at 37:27 time

  • Toblerone5

    Him as a teenager then him dressing like age 43

    Guess nobody wanted to participate in is Fan Art request for the backdrop of the attic studio...(his bedroom duh) so he decided to wear a (marvel ) fan art T-shirt instead...

  • Journeyman
    As seen on his new interview video today... REAL you can see it in video at 37:27 time

    He's no doubt adopted this TV evangelist trick because of the wave of criticism for his previous explicit begging video, and because as many of us observed at the time, repeating the same exercise will not get the same level of returns.

    He probably figures it's a more covert way of slipping the begging message in and implanting the thought of donating to him in the minds of viewers.

    Ironically, by doing that he's copying exactly the tactic he condemns from religious organisations - inserting begging appeals into their content! Again, as with the explicit begging video earlier in the year, he may see some brief growth from doing this, but it will be interesting to see how sustainable that slight increase in numbers proves to be.

    Already we're in the middle of a month - so just over two weeks until he may see another drop in patrons. That cliff edge of every month-end seems to come quicker each time!

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas

    He’s running a business, but tries disguising it as a non-profit. He wouldn’t qualify as a non-profit because he’d have to open his books up for scrutiny and he’s contributing absolutely nothing towards helping people. No food banks, old folks homes or day cares he could point to if audited. So we see the pledge drives as many non-profits practice but with absolutely none of the accountability. Don’t fool yourself - if you become a Patron or financial backer of Jabba the Hutt, it’s a personal donation. Jabba might tell you the money is to feed starving Jawas, but it goes into his account over which he has sole control.

    Donations are made to Lloyd Evans the person, not Ipsilon Media. Not Tibor. Not Dijana. The strange behaviour and his resulting financial struggles are the manifestation of the difficulties of successfully merging the business model of a for-profit and non-profit together and not getting caught. Televangelists enrich themselves, but they need to create something tangible on the ground to throw money at and make it seem real. A youth group cookout. Mission to Haiti.

    Not Lloyd. He picks up women at the Ukrainian border and makes it look like he just rescued Anne Frank in his video.

    To add insult to injury, he goes further than non-profits in appealing to emotions to bring in money. You’ll never see a dog shelter broadcast a commercial with suffering dogs and then cut to a Lloyd Evans type who then proceeds to make threats about having to put more dogs down if donations don’t improve. An advertisement such as that would earn immediate condemnation and lead to diminishing returns.

    Lloyd’s already tread down that path and he’ll never be able to return to the gallant exJW persona who just needs enough money for a survey. You won’t even see a JW or non-JW YTer resort to what he’s doing now and it’s starting to really stand out with his new fundraising pop-ups.

    Jim Jones was a committed Marxist from the beginning, but being in the American Midwest in the 1950s, that dream was impossible to realise. As he stated to close friends, his goal was to “infiltrate the church”. Lloyd has done the same thing with so-called “exJW activism”. I believe he’s said all he’s ever wanted to say about the religion of his father long ago. It’s been about personal enrichment ever since.

    It’s disheartening to think of what all that money collected by Lloyd Evans could go to that’s a worthwhile cause. A group of former JWs go to Lake Tahoe every year for a camp-out. Try to envision what could be accomplished by taking what Lloyd fundraises in two or three months. Not only could they rent a huge block of campsites, purchase all the food, and hotel rooms for the more elderly or infirm, but with whatever is left over, a few less fortunate people can be flown in and picked up.

    Then make one hell of a documentary that people actually want to watch about life outside the organization.

    Bzzzzt! Wake up, dream’s over. Sorry, that money is going to Lloyd. Those Tahoe folks can pay for it their damn self. Fuck you.

  • Newly Enlightened
    Newly Enlightened

    Lloyd when you're picking your nose during a video, nobody is listening. They're laughing at you & wondering what you will find on your 'fishing' expedition.

  • Chinapomo

    Putting that sort of info on your video, about how many patreons you need is just retarded. You can't remove the info later on, because the text is embedded in the video, and in the future anyone will be able to see how many patreons he had at any given time, and also the fact that he actually was begging for money.

    In and of itself it wouldn't be a problem, but people like Lloyd hate historical memory and he's so out of touch and desperate to regain his standard or living, that he doesn't think about these things.

    This is a further proof to show the mental patterns of Lloyd. He doesn't think further ahead than his big nose.

  • TonusOH

    The strange thing is that he displays a message with "target: 500 minimum" even though he also shows a message with a current total of 597. Shouldn't he simply put a counter that reads "subscriber goal: 597/620"? That is what many streamers do. It avoids confusion and makes clear what he wants. I wonder if any potential subscribers feel comfortable not paying because he already surpassed his target by almost 100.

    You can't help but get the impression that he's been carried along by others for all of his life. Left to his own devices, he struggles with the most basic things.

  • Journeyman
    You can't help but get the impression that he's been carried along by others for all of his life. Left to his own devices, he struggles with the most basic things.
    Indeed. And his own stubbornness and refusal to take sound advice from those around him make it worse. He really is his own worst enemy.

    Speaking of which - isn't he due a members' video or livestream by now? His last update was 29 July. I know he's been on 'holiday', but that was over a fortnight ago - the biggest gap in updates for months!

    Those damned patrons - they will insist on expecting something for the money they give! 🤣

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