by Beth Sarim 168 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Ok if you wish to use that year then, that still leaves only 68 years not 70;
To be fair some the problem with the WTS leaders is that didn't have the secular archaeological evidence to what is present now.
...and C Russell or either J Rutherford were not academically trained bible scholars
They were not taking in all the relevant scriptures in hand and made a narrowed minded assumption that fitted their wanting doctrine of 1914.
I don't think he even understands 1914, so many disbelieve it because they don't understand it. They are just attacking Nelson Barbour and not dealing with what the meaning of 1914 is.
Rattigan350
I don't think he even understands 1914, so many disbelieve it because they don't understand it. They are just attacking Nelson Barbour and not dealing with what the meaning of 1914 is
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The said scholar is an expert on 1914 CE and Nelson Barbour
scholar JW
Mr Finkelstein
Ok if you wish to use that year then, that still leaves only 68 years not 70
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When I went to school if you add 70 +537=607 so if we use 537 BCE then go back in time the full 70 years then you can only get to 607 BCE
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To be fair some the problem with the WTS leaders is that didn't have the secular archaeological evidence to what is present now
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This has never been the case for if one has studied the history of modern archaeology right up to the present then there is a strong case for the Land of Judah been devastated for 70 years thus confirming the bible and chronology based on those facts proves 807 BCE
scholar JW
This has never been the case for if one has studied the history of modern archaeology right up to the present then there is a strong case for the Land of Judah been devastated for 70 years thus confirming the bible and chronology based on those facts proves 807 BCE
I see so your math says that 605 the starting year of the annexation over Judea to 537 BCE the end of the annexation is 70 years.
605 - 70 = 535 BCE
Why you lying bastard.
You sure have the Spirit of Satan in you
The Scholarly goat is trying to trick us,
a ha I knew it !
Mr Finkelstein
I see so your math says that 605 the starting year of the annexation over Judea to 537 BCE the end of the annexation is 70 years.
605 - 70 = 535 BCE
I would argue that any annexation of Judea by Babylon could only have occurred in 621/20 BCE with the eighth year of Jehoiakim's reign with subsequent rebellion causing the 70 years in 607 BCE.
scholar JW
I would argue that any annexation of Judea by Babylon could only have occurred in 621/20 BCE with the eighth year of Jehoiakim's reign with subsequent rebellion causing the 70 years in 607 BCE.
It appears you have only taken up bible scholarship studies just to back up WTS's doctrines and teachings which proves without doubt your intellectually dishonest and corrupt.
Just for those who really wanted to know about Jehoiakim ....
Jehoiakim was appointed king by Necho II, king of Egypt, in 609 BC, after Necho's return from the battle in Haran, three months after he had killed King Josiah at Megiddo.[4] Necho deposed Jehoiakim's younger brother Jehoahaz after a reign of only three months and took him to Egypt, where he died. Jehoiakim ruled originally as a vassal of the Egyptians, paying a heavy tribute. To raise the money he "taxed the land and exacted the silver and gold from the people of the land according to their assessments."[5]
However, after the Egyptians were defeated by the Babylonians at the battle of Carchemish in 605 BC, Nebuchadnezzar II besieged Jerusalem, and Jehoiakim changed allegiances to avoid the destruction of Jerusalem. He paid tribute from the treasury in Jerusalem, some temple artifacts, and handed over some of the royal family and nobility as hostages.[4]
Rabbinical literature describes Jehoiakim as a godless tyrant who committed atrocious sins and crimes. He is portrayed as living in incestuous relations with his mother, daughter-in-law, and stepmother, and was in the habit of murdering men, whose wives he then violated and whose property he seized. He also had tattooed his body.[1]
The prophet Jeremiah criticised the king's policies, insisting on repentance and strict adherence to the law.[6] Another prophet, Uriah ben Shemaiah, proclaimed a similar message and Jehoiakim ordered his execution (Jeremiah 26:20–23).[7]
Jehoiakim continued for three years as a vassal to the Babylonians, until the failure of an invasion of Egypt in 601 BC undermined their control of the area. Jehoiakim switched allegiance back to the Egyptians.[4] In late 598 BC, the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II invaded Judah and again laid siege to Jerusalem, which lasted three months. Jehoiakim died before the siege ended.[2] The Book of Chronicles recorded that "Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon ... bound him in fetters, to carry him to Babylon."[8] Jeremiah prophesied that he died without proper funeral, describing the people of Judah "shall not lament for him, saying, 'Alas, master!' or 'Alas, his glory!' He shall be buried with the burial of a donkey, dragged and cast out beyond the gates of Jerusalem" (Jeremiah 22:18–19) "and his dead body shall be cast out to the heat of the day and the frost of the night" (Jeremiah 36:30).[9] Josephus wrote that Nebuchadnezzar slew Jehoiakim along with high-ranking officers and then commanded Jehoiakim's body "to be thrown before the walls, without any burial."[10]
He was succeeded by his son Jeconiah (also known as Jehoiachin).[3] After three months, Nebuchadnezzar deposed Jeconiah (fearing that he would avenge his father's death by revolting, according to Josephus[11]) and installed Zedekiah, Jehoiakim's younger brother, as king in his place. Jeconiah, his household, and much of Judah's population were exiled to Babylon.[12]
According to the Babylonian Chronicles,[13] Jerusalem fell on 2 Adar (16 March) 597 BC. The Chronicles state:
The seventh year (of Nebuchadnezzar – 598 BC.) in the month Chislev (Nov/Dec) the king of Babylon assembled his army, and after he had invaded the land of Hatti (Syria/Palestine) he laid siege to the city of Judah. On the second day of the month of Adar (16 March) he conquered the city and took the king (Jeconiah) prisoner. He installed in his place a king (Zedekiah) of his own choice, and after he had received rich tribute, he sent (them) forth to Babylon.[14]
Mr. Finkelstein
It appears you have only taken up bible scholarship studies just to back up WTS's doctrines and teachings which proves without doubt your intellectually dishonest and corrupt
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You presume to know my motives but you are wide off the mark. My studies were in the fields of Religion and Philosophy only.
I would also suggest that your readers read the article 'Jehoiakim' in our Bible Encyclopedia which is accessible on JW.ORG in the insight Volume 1.
scholar JW
