Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

by DATA-DOG 154 Replies latest social current

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  redvip2000

  Dr. Leanna Wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… They have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  Well let's add something to that analogy. Let's say there was a way to immunize everybody against every effect of drunk driving. And it was free and widely available. So anybody that wanted to protect themselves against drunks could.

  All of sudden you could make the case that everybody that wanted to drive drunk should be allowed to do it, because there is a way you can individually protect against it, and that drunk driver is only putting himself at risk.
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  Rocketman123

  As for your question about me still being a Dub, are you serious?

  Just wondering because we all know how JWS are against worldly governments, a slight possibility of that being your problem.
  

  Say I just saw a news broadcast that said that Florida is having more infections now than any time since the virus outbreak and that people that are being admitted into their ICUs are all unvacinated.

  Shit there goes that dam scientific evidence again.

  This is what happens when people listen to ignorant political leaders rather than specialists in virus human to human transmissions.

  Are you possibly a nutter ?

  Because you sure sound like one .
  
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  joey jojo

  anon:

  "Delays to the supply chain because of lockdowns, unnecessary deaths as a result."

  You are right- there has definitely been collateral damage from lockdowns- no questions.

  But can you even begin to imagine the horrific scenarios in hospitals, even in first world countries, if there were no lockdowns and the virus was allowed to spread? The hospitals would be absolutely overwhelmed with sick and dying. Not to mention the strain on society in general?

  The collateral damage from NOT locking down would be exponentially worse.
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  DATA-DOG

  “ Say I just saw a news broadcast that said that Florida is having more infections now than any time since the virus outbreak and that people that are being admitted into their ICUs are all unvacinated”

  What news broadcast? Are you sure it’s accurate? Are you willing to listen to an expert who disagrees and weigh all the evidence, or do you just want your “Team” to win?

  I’m just wondering as toxic tribalism is a real problem right now. Asking yourself if you really want accurate information or just want to “win” is something I constantly ask myself and I highly recommend it.

  Governments have a role in society, but need to be kept in check. History is full of examples of Government corruption and overreach.

  The fact that your go-to mode is attacks and labeling leads me to surmise that your mindset isn’t far off from a JW.

  Can you explain why specialists the world over aren’t being given a platform, but are instead being censored by Big Tech who are heavily invested in the success of MRNA shots? This success requires vaccinating as many as possible now, with the plan of booster shots. In other words, following the formula for the flu-shot, aka, customers for life.

  I await your next insult.

  DD
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  DATA-DOG

  “The collateral damage from NOT locking down would be exponentially worse.”

  You don’t know that, and have no way of proving it. The mortality rate of Covid-19 for the majority doesn’t support your statement.

  DD
  
  
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  joey jojo

  Well DD, which is it?

  Was it better to lock down, or let covid rampage unchecked?

  Im referring not only to mortality rates but the sheer amount of people that would need hospitalisation and ICU support. Can you imagine the affect on supply chains, as anonymous pointed out, if uncontrolled amounts of people got sick?

  Its not rocket science, restrict movement == restrict spread of virus.
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  Rocketman123

  What news broadcast? Are you sure it’s accurate? Are you willing to listen to an expert who disagrees and weigh all the evidence, or do you just want your “Team” to win?

  Global TV which is a across Canadian broadcast and the people who mentioned about people being admitted to ICUs were from the doctors actually working there.

  Oh but you don't want to trust those doctors ....... right ?

  You sure like beating a dead horse with your nonsense, give up for Jah's sake
  
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  Vidqun

  There's always two sides to a story.

  After all, the average (IFR) death rate of Covid is a mere 0.26% of those infected (this is a stat that the media consistently and deliberately refuses to mention to the public). This means that 99.7% of the public is in NO danger from Covid whether they are vaccinated or not.

  https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.13.20101253v

  Do the vaccines ensure better odds? Well, according to recent statistics from Massachusetts, not necessarily, as they report over 5100 infections and 80 deaths of fully vaccinated patients. The media keeps telling us that only the unvaccinated are dying, but this is a lie, like so many other lies they have been peddling when it comes to Covid. So, what’s the point of taking an experimental vaccine if the death rate of the virus is so low and the jab doesn’t necessarily protect you anyway?

  https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/more-than-5100-breakthrough-covid-cases-reported-in-mass-at-least-80-have-died/2435719/
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  Rocketman123

  The fact we can hold to right now is that vaccinations are only useful to lessen symptoms if you do get Covid.

  If and when the social restrictions are completely removed and serious cases goes down remarkably, then they have proven themselves to be effective and purposeful.
  
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  pistolpete

  After all, the average (IFR) death rate of Covid is a mere 0.26% of those infected (this is a stat that the media consistently and deliberately refuses to mention to the public). This means that 99.7% of the public is in NO danger from Covid whether they are vaccinated or not.

  https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.13.20101253v

  Do the vaccines ensure better odds? Well, according to recent statistics from Massachusetts, not necessarily, as they report over 5100 infections and 80 deaths of fully vaccinated patients. The media keeps telling us that only the unvaccinated are dying, but this is a lie, like so many other lies they have been peddling when it comes to Covid. So, what’s the point of taking an experimental vaccine if the death rate of the virus is so low and the jab doesn’t necessarily protect you anyway?

  I am of the opinion that if you are elderly, have a medical underline condition like obesity because you don't exercise or eat healthy, or were born with some bad medical condition------then perhaps you should take the vaccine---------it's your life------but don't push it on us healthy, young, people who do take care of our health.

  If you are afraid of it spreading and you catching it----------STAY HOME.
  

  Why do you think Humans have survived all this time even though there have been numerous plagues throughout history? Because there will always be humans who have Strong, Healthy, immune systems that can beat just about any plague.

  Here is a BRIEF SUMMARY of the past year EXPERT ADVICE by "Expert" Fauci, and the Deep State Agencies who were not voted in by the people but have power over them, and the Democrats that rally for for all these power hungry people.

  What we are in danger of is this lab leak virus mutating, ------ and killing 100s of millions with no chance of ANY VACCINE HELPING anyone.
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTmQblV63I8