WT and Higher ED

by enoughisenough 65 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • enoughisenough
    enoughisenough

    Exbethelitenowpima...if they do a u turn, would that not upset their globalist overlords? ( I have come to the conclusion they are agents and being handled by globalist who want to depopulate.They have counseled against having children for years now in direct and roundabout ways. ( yep, I get into some of the conspiracies that are showing themselves to be well founded.) I would be interested ( and maybe others as well) on what your thoughts were about this video when you heard it in the school-if you recall )

  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    enoughisenough

    Thank you for that link.I realise how fortunate I was to be in a more liberal congregation for the last many years I was a beleiver......I actually had a close relationship with a few ( 4) Elders where we used to have a friday night together having a few drinks and socialising as familys ,and our kids knocking about.

    And having a BBQ over the weekends was not uncommon. We were all drinkers and I hasten to say responsible drinkers.

    We were all about the same age and I was a MS .3 of the Elders were self employed one as a painter the other as a builder , and another as a plasterer . The 4th one was a sales rep for a commercial company .

    They all owned their own homes or had morg .on them

    And I had a full time job in a refinery and at that time renting.

    And none of us had higher education it was all self taught.

    I`m happy to say we now own our own house paid outright on my retirement.i was in my last job for 28 years.

    In my 30 plus years in the religion I never experienced any of this crap denouncing HE.,and I attended in total about 6 congregations ,as renters we did move around a bit.

    I converted to da troof in 1960 and left in the mid 1990`s

    it`s a bit of an eye opener even for me now , what some of you had to put up with.

    I hope all of this makes sense as it`s my happy hour now.LOL

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    joey jojo: If the WT is willing to deter young ones from a decent education, any elders who have kids going to uni should resign.

    I knew an elder who was a very long time member, he had traveled with Knorr and knew the GB members well. He was a loyal JW, and when his daughter (his only child) wanted to go to college, he was dead set against it. It was creating animosity between them, so he spoke with GB member Albert Schroeder about it.

    Schroeder asked him if she had ever given him any trouble before, and he replied that she hadn't. So Schroeder told him not to start any trouble with her now. So the elder relented, though I imagine it was uncomfortable for him to have a child in college after decades of 'counseling' the rank and file not to do so themselves. But the advice came straight from a GB member.

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman
    I realise how fortunate I was to be in a more liberal congregation
    Schroeder asked him if she had ever given him any trouble before, and he replied that she hadn't. So Schroeder told him not to start any trouble with her now.

    Exactly. These experiences show it's perfectly possible for the org to be 'itself' but still maintain a more 'human' side. It happened sometimes in the past, and it has happened (and still happens) in some pockets and places, so it can be done. So that's why there's no excuse. Contrary to the way some org higher-ups act, it's not fundamental (pardon the pun) to being "God's organisation" to behave the way they do and insist on some of these rigid policies at all costs.

    When Jesus called out the Pharisees and they defended themselves by saying they could see the point and weren't blind, he said: "If you were blind, you would have no sin. But now you say, ‘We see.’ Your sin remains."

    The GB is the same. They know and can see things could be done differently, but refuse to act on that.

  • EasyPrompt
    EasyPrompt

    "When Jesus called out the Pharisees and they defended themselves by saying they could see the point and weren't blind, he said: "If you were blind, you would have no sin. But now you say, ‘We see.’ Your sin remains."

    The GB is the same. They know and can see things could be done differently, but refuse to act on that."


    Amen!


    That's why Jesus is going to allow the org to be removed, because they refuse to change.

  • St George of England
    St George of England
    so he spoke with GB member Albert Schroeder about it.

    Did not Schroeder's son, Ben Judah, go to university?

    George


  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Of course they have to send some of ""their own"" for university.

    I mean who else will the higher-ups rely on for dental/medical, right?

  • St George of England
  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    SMIDDY3:

    As I might have said in the past, I’m glad for you that things went better in Australia with regard to Witnesses having full-time jobs or college ed. This would mean fewer needy Witnesses in your area hitting retirement age unprepared!

    I know it’s hard to believe but things are different in the USA in the JW religion. Maybe it’s because it originated here and/or is geographically closer to the ‘GB’.. As you have heard, people with full-time jobs in the Jehovah’s Witness religion and/or someone getting college are shunned to varying degrees - depending on who you are and if you’re related to anybody there.

    It’s enough to make me shudder and cringe when I think about what could have happened if I allowed these control freaks to interfere in my life.. So, I got a reputation for being ‘independent’ which means they couldn’t ‘control’ me!

    So glad I wasn’t raised a Witness and maybe this saved me(?) All I know is I’m Retired and glad I’m Out of there.. I followed my gut.. Who cares what popular types who got invited everywhere decades ago thought of me. Let them go ask their ‘spiritual’ friends for assistance.

  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    Good for you LongHairGal

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