WT and Higher ED

by enoughisenough 65 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman

    The whole higher education "problem" is one of those amazing self-inflicted wounds (like the interminable wrangling over brothers with beards) that has absolutely no foundation in scripture but has been concocted into some huge controversial challenge and test of conscience, obedience, faith and integrity over which pages of commentary and hours of talks and videos have been needlessly produced (and of course, as a consequence, untold anxiety, anger and distress caused to many brothers and sisters).

    If the GB took a step back and looked more objectively at those kind of "self-inflicted wound" issues, they'd see that they are causing far more "reproach on Jehovah's name" and damage to the congregations by using the sledgehammer of congregational discipline to constantly slam down on them.

    If they simply made higher education a matter of personal choice and conscience, perhaps just with an occasional talk about being careful to be balanced in one's future choices, and only involve elders in 'extreme' cases - like, I dunno, if someone was studying Wiccan studies with an optional module of Porneia or something! I jest, but you get the point. There are some options around higher education which may not be wise for a Christian, but to pretty much outlaw it all and to punish the parents for their teen's educational choices, is unreasonable, in the same way that trying to restrict all entertainment just because some entertainment choices might be bad would also be crazy. The org has rolled back over the years on the subject of entertainment, to be much less proscriptive and rules-based - they really need to take the same position on these other issues.

    They would save members of the congregations a lot of stress (being 'disciplined' for entirely understandable life choices).

    They would save bodies of elders a lot of stress (being expected to 'enforce' unreasonable rules).

    In the longer term, they would even benefit the org (happier members of the congregations able to exercise their choice, and having the potential for better income and knowledge, which could feed back into the org itself, as with other religious groups who do encourage education)

    And more importantly from a spiritual viewpoint, they would stop going "beyond what is written" in the bible and bringing dishonour on God by creating this unnecessary "stumbling block" that has caused a lot of people to quit or be discouraged.

    However, I suspect this will be another one of those areas where the stubbornness of the GB will end up being more damaging, to the organisation's cost.

  • enoughisenough
  • joey jojo
    joey jojo
    ExBethelitenowPIMA
    It’s very hypocritical though,
    I know of Elders who went to Uni and now their sons are too.

    I agree. If the WT is willing to deter young ones from a decent education, any elders who have kids going to uni should resign.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    The WT society is,,will be always its worst enemy.

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    JOURNEYMAN:

    I totally agree with your whole post. I wonder though if the Witness religion feels ‘married to’ their stand against college and is afraid to change it for fear they will look worse? They look bad enough as it is.

    I totally agree that their stand against college is the teaching of ‘men’. I believe it had its origins in some uneducated elders or COs in the religion looking like fools when they had arguments with some college educated brothers in congregations. I once had an elder admit that ‘college educated brothers are harder to counsel’! There you have it. The religion couldn’t give a rat’s a$$ if people can’t feed themselves or keep a roof over their heads. All they care about is if they have servile followers with low self confidence.

    Even though I’m long Out, I could never get over this.. As for what somebody said about ‘passive aggressive punishment’ towards somebody who goes against what they say: I experienced shunning because I refused to quit my full-time job. I knew I had to support myself. I’m now Retired.. The religion wouldn’t be supporting me or anyone else.

    I see all the JWs who listened to their bad advice who didn’t get decent jobs/careers and are struggling today - like people who lost in a bad investment or pyramid scheme.

    This hypocritical religion is beneath contempt and there is No forgiveness.

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman
    I wonder though if the Witness religion feels ‘married to’ their stand against college and is afraid to change it for fear they will look worse?

    I think you're right, and that's probably also true of a lot of other controversial, unscriptural teachings that they've refused to change. There's probably an element of 'sunken cost' combined with fear of a backlash that is preventing them from having the courage to make a clean break with the past.

    But the growing problems won't go away. The longer they leave addressing it, the worse it will be for them when they have to face it. And in the meantime, the more they bleed out membership and support.

    I could never get over their stubborn or hypocritical stand on this.
    These hypocrites are beneath contempt and there is No forgiveness for them.
    For those who still believe in God and the bible at least, I think it's instructive to look at the behaviour of the religious leaders of Jesus' day and what he said he and his Father thought of them and what their outcome would be, then to compare that to the behaviour of the JW org today and ponder what those parallels might mean for the future of the GB, the 'helpers' and other members of their 'inner circle'!
  • Foolednomore
    Foolednomore

    Watchtower is Contemptible!

  • ExBethelitenowPIMA
    ExBethelitenowPIMA

    It says video been removed

    was that watchtower?

  • enoughisenough
    enoughisenough

    ExBethelitenowPiMA ...it was a mini drama of 4 elders meeting with an elder who had 2 daughters that were bad examples ( hence he was ) because they wanted higher education. I posted a link to it on tiktok a couple of postings back if it is still up. I found it hateful, but insightful.

  • ExBethelitenowPIMA
    ExBethelitenowPIMA

    Thanks Enough. I remember it from elders school when it first came out. There is another one after that in the same series with the same elder body.

    of course now I can’t go to elders school anymore because I’m fully unvaccinated even though I’m still an elder I can never go to elders school ever again until the do a U turn on the mandatory fully vaxed to go to any school

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