Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!

by Simon 173 Replies latest social current

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  MeanMrMustard

  Holly shit , it’s like my disfellowshipping hearing in here.
  “ better lifestyle choices, consequences , held accountable “. People ( besides you dorks ) get laid. It happens. Get over it. It’s none of your damn business.

  Leaving the WT doesn't imply leaving all standards behind.
  
  But to your broader point: Go get laid. Go fork a bunch of girls, or get forked. I really don't care. But the debate around abortion is not about control. Perhaps you would like to think its about control. It really isn't. I don't care if you go pork three women, two men, five goats, and a horse all at the same time. I may care about the animals - they didn't consent. But as a way of illustrating my point, I don't forking care.
  
  Go get drunk and laid all you want. Your body, your choice. But your liberty to swing your fist ends just where my nose begins, and once there is someone else's body in the mix, it's not strictly your choice anymore.
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  Simon

  I don't care if you go pork three women, two men, five goats, and a horse all at the same time. I may care about the animals - they didn't consent.

  I heard some people get off by pumping helium into farm animals. I say, whatever floats your goat! (boom-tish)

  Sorry, I rarely get to use that joke and it's the closest opening I've seen.
  
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  titch

  Responding to LoveUni: By my quoting the writing of Sam Harris, what I was trying to point out is that, maybe, just maybe a miscarriage is nature's way of ending...terminating...aborting...a pregnancy? Could be, could be. And, I wish that people would stop using that terminology "unborn babies." A fetus is not an unborn "baby." A fetus is just that...a fetus. It is a pre-birth fetus. It is not a full-fledged, viable human being. During the 9-month period inside the womb of my mother, I was just that, a pre-birth fetus. And, for the first few weeks of my mom's pregnancy, I was merely a "clump of cells." A globule of cells. I didn't have any conscious thoughts, any ideas, any concepts. I was not a "cute pre-born baby." A fetus. That's all.

  Titch.
  
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  MeanMrMustard

  By my quoting the writing of Sam Harris, what I was trying to point out is that, maybe, just maybe a miscarriage is nature's way of ending...terminating...aborting...a pregnancy? Could be, could be.

  I honesty don't understand this argument. Given the above, can you put a conclusion on it? Therefore........ what?
  
  
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  Simon

  During the 9-month period inside the womb of my mother, I was just that, a pre-birth fetus.

  No, you weren't. You were a baby for a significant part of it, with heartbeat, brain, and nervous system. You could respond to touch and music.

  Science denier.
  
  
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  TonusOH

  I think Harris was making the point that, if abortion is such an evil in God's eyes, He is acting in direct opposition to that belief by making it happen naturally. If you're an atheist, the argument is meaningless, since the high rate of natural miscarriages is just an outcome of the evolutionary process.
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  Simon

  He's assuming that people believe god directly causes every single thing that happens. I'm not sure that's what most religious people believe. It would mean there was no free will to make choices, we'd all be just puppets.
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  MeanMrMustard

  Would Harris make a distinction between "killing" and "dying"?
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  LoveUniHateExams

  People ... get laid. It happens. Get over it. It’s none of your damn business - you're missing the point entirely.

  People who choose to be sexually active should also be responsible.

  ^^^ What about this is so hard to understand?!
  
  
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  LoveUniHateExams

  what I was trying to point out is that, maybe, just maybe a miscarriage is nature's way of ending...terminating...aborting...a pregnancy? - yes, but nature kills all the time. We can't charge 'Nature' with unlawful killing.

  Human beings are a different matter entirely. Human beings (especially medical doctors) have a responsibility to act sensibly and preserve life, wherever possible.

  PS - Sam Harris is, or seems to be, very intelligent. But I'm not sure he has self awareness and/or emotional intelligence. Perhaps he's on some kind of spectrum? Maybe, dunno ...