what do you guys wish to accomplish? is there a belief you are trying to promote? or just arguing for the sake of circular arguing? Are you trying to make a case for the abrahamic god? or any other myth? if not then we are all in the same boat.
Is this directed towards our discussion?
Atheist are all agnostic technically.
Many Atheists are Agnostic but some are also Gnostic.
I don't believe anyone who would be labeled and atheist would be stupid enough to say they are certain there is not
Well, yes there are some. Many people get there beliefs from other sources that careful study. You are probably familiar with this as an ex JW. This is true for Atheists as well, some adapt a popular belief without a good understanding of it etc...
Not saying that all Gnostic's do this of course.
If understand correctly Saintbertholdt is one of those few Gnostic's and I am trying to show him that this position is unreasonable because it is based on a logical fallacy. Hence all the links to logical fallacies
Maybe it is pointless, I get the feeling he is starting to understand that he is wrong but wont admit it, idk.
Anyone else with similar beliefs might alter them after reading this thread. All Gnostic's, both Theists and Atheist (most Gnostic's are probably Theists) might benefit from this discussion, idk