You're in Hotel California. You can check in but you can never leave. If they aren't deleting you for being complacent, then accept the comfort zone you've created for yourself. It's just a matter of time before a new CO will come along and be a pr*ck and delete you.
My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed
by JW_Rogue 67 Replies latest jw experiences
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JW_Rogue
Good point! I may be six months away from the problem solving itself! -
Giordano
Stay strong and handle your fade in a way that keeps your dignity intact. Keep your relationship with your wife strong. Moving with her into her first language congregation sounds like a loving thing to do based on her feelings about the current congregation.
If we are voting lol....... I vote foreign language congo!
If your wife questions your fading when it becomes obvious.... stay away from apostate stuff. Either remind her that you've been doing witness stuff your entire life and it's time for a change of pace. Or you could tell her your troubled by a lot of the changes in doctrines. Finally there is the child abuse issue which is beginning to 'stumble' a lot of believers in many different religions......as well as JW's.
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cognitivedizzy
JW_Rogue
Its not a cake walk, but some times you can have the cake and do the walk :)
Don't do anything in a hurry, where are you with the TTATT right now ?, I just stepped down a week ago and have crazy eyes all over me, One MS asked me what was the reason, I told him you tell me why you were stepped down 3 years ago and I will tell you mine ( He was stepped down due to porno ) lol.... Its just that its not easy, JWs are the most picky nosey lot... so play the complacent card and slow down FS miss meetings once in a while,, it will add to the stepping down...
Congrats on TTATT... I'm loving the revelation!!!!
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The Searcher
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goingthruthemotions
i stepped down has an MS....I was successful by taking advice from this site.
1. claimed hardship....i.e. to much work, or just to busy
2. changed halls.
3. wala...i was no longer an MS. This was the best move i ever made....best best move is yet to come. That would be to eventually break clean from this cult.
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aintenoughwiskey
Locate the alpha dog elder, or any elder for that matter. Start in on him about his fancy car, wifes tight skirt, whatever. You will be stepped down so fast your head will spin. Added bonus, you just got stumbled!
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JW_Rogue
Where am I? Well, as a born in I always felt that I didn't really believe everything 100% but for a long time I felt that this was the best way to live or at least convinced myself of that. Or my mind would fall back on the old "Where are we to go?" line of reasoning. As I've gotten into my middle age though I started thinking "if I wasn't born into a witness family would I join this religion?" the clear answer was "no". Then I started researching some thing like the UN NGO scandal. I started thinking about we were told that certain books were pivotal moments in JW history but how I'd never actually read them. So I went and read "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" and "Can We Talk To The Dead?" both by Rutherford as supposedly part of the FDS at the time. If you haven't read those then I suggest that you do. The absolute ridiculousness and unsupported statements will have you wondering just how stupid people were in the 1920s. It also hit just how much the true nature of these books have been concealed. Sure the WT will take a quote here and there that makes them sound like they had special insight but the overall content is not discussed. For example many times they used to point the the title of "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" and connect it to the generation teaching (at that time) but did they mentioned the main thrust that a great Resurrection would take place in 1925? Nope, glossed over that part and now that the generation teaching has been changed they never mention the book at all. What become clear to me was that this is an organization of men these men may feel guided by the spirit or they may not it really makes no difference because in my view they are not.
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konceptual99
I was finding it impossible to be deleted so I took advantage of a CO instigated directive that all appointed men should be doing the cong average to create merry hell about stupid rules and how I was not going to have the depth of my spirituality and service measured by pure hours. Sent a letter of resignation, condescended to wait a few weeks in case I changed my mind (hahaha) to please the COBE and deflect a bit of attention and then just stood down anyway.
There's no easy way as they will do anything to keep you on but choose a route, stick to your guns and it will be job done.
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Bonsai
This religion is a slow death dealing cancer. It provides false hope, conditional love and loads of fear, obligation and guilt. It causes severe depression and suicides, breaks up families and teaches you to be a judgmental, elitist ignoramus.
I literally do see dead bodies everywhere as I can't get their teachings out of my head sometimes. The sooner you stand up to the bull sh#t, the sooner you can clear your conscience, and live the remainder of your life on your own terms as an independent moral agent contributing to society.
What worked for me was moving to a new cong and rejecting the appointment privately. Get busy making new friends outside of this org so as to smooth the transition from cult friends to genuine human being friends.