Villagegirl said:"Holy cow, you are a flaming racist, defenderofnothing."
Where is your proof of that? Oh, because of what you quoted me saying there? Well, here's the context..
Rjharris said: " the 'Brother' who snitched and turned me in was a 'Black man.' This shows the power and influence the White power structure the organization has over its membership."
I wasn't questioning whether there is a racist element to the organisation, or whether white people rule the GB by majority, which I gather you are assuming because of the following comment you made: "Its a white old mens club"... It probably is
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If you think about it, rj seemed to be asserting that because a black man informed the elders that he was telling people, potential converts (Bible studies), that the Watchtower doesn't speak truth in its illustrations and likely putting some off joining, that this 'shows' that the white power structure has strong influence or control over it's membership. Again, maybe it IS an example of black people being brainwashed into accepting Jesus portrayed as white, when apparently they should all have an issue with that. Maybe this is just an issue that I've never considered before. I've had several good friends that are black, and none of them have ever mentioned to me that a white depiction of Jesus bothered them.. Who knows, I'm not a mind reader.Try to bear in mind, I am a white man brought up in the 'Truth'. I have never even had a conversation about 'black' or 'white' culture or thinking.
I have, though, been deeply angered by stories of racist segregation at assemblies, some being told in the past that 'your people sit over there'!!
Sorry for the off-topic post, but I had to reply to this Villagegirl said: "Jesus was a Semitic Jew, with a black grandmother in his ancestry. He was not a blue eyed Nordic white man. you idiot."
A) Which Jesus do you mean? The fantasy figure built up by Christianity, or the historical, 'real' Jesus that probably existed? Assuming that you mean the latter, yes he likely was dark-skinned. Where did I claim otherwise?
B) Are you capable of having a rational conversation with someone who sees things differently, without calling them idiots and racists for questioning certain statements that seem strange to them?
C) I do apologise for any offence caused. I am the sort who questions everything, it pi**es a lot of people off in real life, I'll try to refrain in future, and just listen
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And someone on the previous page said: "Statistics-evidence! Gosh can't we just let our friend say what's on his mind."
Of course. I'm sorry if it sounded like I was trying to censor him in any way. I genuinely WOULD love to see anything to back up this claim: "The organization.. is losing people of color and in particular it's youth and more specifically its Black youth."
To claim that the org is specifically losing black youths because of the way it's ran and the literature seems a strong statement to make if it's only based on his congregation, or maybe that's just me. It'd be the kind of info that deserves an article or something.
