Besty, I don't understand why you wrote the OP doesn't make sense.
The OP refers to 'some of the members on JWN' - without links to what 'some' have apparently written I don't want to speculate with my response unless I see what the OP is referring to.
Seems a simple enough request, given that the OP has taken the time and effort to create a mini-survey based on the premise - a few original source quotes should be easy for them to present without further prevarication.