David Cameron Confronts Cristina Fernandez (UK v Argentina)

by cofty 182 Replies latest social current

  • botchtowersociety
    botchtowersociety

    Cristina knows she hasn't the military strength to make much headway against the UK. Her main aim is to arouse sympathy in whatever parts of the world have grievances of their own that can be manipulated to meld with her cause, and also among anyone with a vague sense that maybe Britain is really the colonialist, imperialist nation as which she tries at every turn to portray Britain.
    That is actually the sole tactic. That's what the recent visit to the uN was. That's why the internet is a gift to Buenos Aires. What's happoening on this forum is happening all over the web.
    If you doubt me, just consider the poster's pen-name, go back and read the introductory thread and other early threads, and notice how by the second post or so her main purpose is introduced.And then reflect, and maybe study Cristina's actions and sayings, and also study reflect a bit on Argentina itself. It wouldn't hurt to have a look at the Falkland's sites too.
    It's all very illuminating, and what's going on is as clear as daylight.

    Fascinating.

  • botchtowersociety
    botchtowersociety
    And Mitt Romney might send a pair of magic underpants.

    LOL. Maybe.

  • Chariklo
    Chariklo

    Mind you, Botchtower, you have to remember I'm dimwitted!

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    Chariklo you may well be right but it's no good reason to attempt to silence the debate.

  • Chariklo
    Chariklo

    Oh, I'm not, Slimboy. Don't get me wrong, it's a great debate and I'm enjoying it.

    That's what I've worked out for myself, but I'm not alone.

    We're actually privileged to be experiencing part of this international campaign. It's fascinating.

    And I tell you what, LMAS, I'm actually rather grateful to you on one level. I was very interested in the Falklands when it all happened 30 years ago, and followed it along with everyone else. But I hadn't given it much more than a passing thought in the years between.

    However, fast forward to May 2012, and Emilie appears on here! Of course, 30th year anniversary!

    And it has truly shed light everywhere, because we have all been able to inform ourselves properly, and some of us have truly investigated all sides, prompted by your very interesting revelations of the Argentine mind.

    It's highly educational, and long may it continue. We're all learning a lot.

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    Well my interest in the Falklands war is that I was born n the middle of it.

    Have you got a link where the Argentinian president encouraged people to discuss the issue on Internet forums?

  • Chariklo
    Chariklo

    Yes, I noticed it somewhere on the net a few days ago, Slimboy, but bear with me, it's late and bed calls. (I'm Grandma, remember!)

    I'll find it and get back to you tomorrow.

  • botchtowersociety
    botchtowersociety

    The Market has delivered its verdict on Cristina Fernandez--and here us the real reason for the Falklands distraction:

    http://news.investors.com/article/617562/201207091910/argentinian-dollar-ban-will-not-work-because-it-contradicts-markets.htm

    Argentina Dollar Ban A Sign Of Failed Socialist Policies

    Socialism: In the latest chapter of Argentina's war on economic reality, President Cristina Fernandez has banned the buying of dollars in a bid to halt capital flight. It's a market verdict on her policies, and it won't stop dollarization.

    Putting dollar-sniffing dogs on outbound ferries from Buenos Aires to Uruguay apparently didn't halt Argentinians' desire to get their money out of the country. After losing a billion dollars a month to capital flight by small investors in 2011's fourth quarter, Argentina continues to lose about half that amount as citizens send assets out of the country.

    And why shouldn't they? In the last three years, Argentina's government has seized private pensions to pay for pork barrel social programs, raising government spending to 38% of GDP.

    It has been caught lying about its inflation statistics (officially around 30%), a sign it's now printing money. It has started paying down its foreign debt with its central bank reserves — some $4 billion out of its $46 billion kitty. It has also just told banks they'll have to lend $3 billion to politically favored businesses in an Obama-style effort to pick and choose winners and losers.

    Once again, Argentina's damaging, once-a-decade cycle of devaluations and defaults is kicking in.

    This matters because so much of what Argentina's leaders are doing is being justified with the sickly-sweet logic of the left. In reality, it's about force.

    Fernandez declares that her anti-dollar "pesofication" is just an effort to "save jobs" — even as she blames the downturn in Europe for her own crisis.

    In reality, she has stepped up government-spending, crushed the private sector through taxes, picked winners and losers, paid off favored union cronies, and is seeking to get access to global credit markets by paying off a series of government-issued dollar bonds called Bodens with other people's money.

    Her central banker, Mercedes Marco del Pont, has declared war on reality and run the money presses overtime, declaring last March: "It is totally false to say that printing more money generates inflation," and blaming foreigners for Argentina's surging prices.

    There's just one problem with the dollar ban: It won't work. Citizens want dollars because they no longer have confidence in the peso or in government policies.

    All the dollar-sniffing dogs in the world can't hide the reality that the market verdict — devaluation — is in.

    The dollar ban will only freeze economic activity, create a privileged class that will profit from inside information and make the inevitable fall that much harder.

  • Diest
    Diest

    What a balanced article. It is about Argentina, yet it mentions Obama.

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas

    More of a general attack on socialism than anything. Now is where someone quotes Thatcher's line about the problem with socialism is that you always run out of someone else's money.

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