Thanks for all the great responses ! You gals & guys rock ! Got back from working all night- I'll respond to your comments.
TOTALLY ADD- Hello back to you ! How are you my friend ? Good points you make. The WT society discounts any personal feelings that rank & file Witnesses have by the control they wield over them. It goes hand in hand. I think they are running scared and want ultimate control over JW's . So this results in these overcontrolling articles.
PISTOFF- Good point you make. The apostle Paul or none of the disciples ever kicked out fellow Christians who disagreed with them. Or they never threatened them " with death " for disagreeing. The GB of the WT society puts themselves on a level the same as God- if not higher !
JECKLE- Very true. The WT society compares themselves to EVERYTHING actually in the Bible. They pull these comparisons out of their rear end. At this stage of the game it's getting very stinky. Like " something's rotten in Denmark. "
SABASTIOUS- Indeed Moses was certainly not a saint- or without fault. Thanks for that reference. However it seems the WT society just picks and chooses what they want to put forth to make their point. It's the same thing to me when they always use King David as a " positive " example, you know - " Kind David was humble, blah, blah, blah ". Yeah, right. This was a guy who murdered another woman's husband then stole her to be his wife. And the WT society uses HIM as an example of faithfulness ? Like I said- they pick and choose to make THEIR points.
SKEETER 1- Excellent points and thanks so much for showing the BITE models of mind control and applying it to the article for folks to see exactly how cults like the WT society & Jehovah's Witnesses use those methods to indoctrinate members into utter mind control. Very well done ! Thanks.
LONG HAIR GAL- Thanks. The only way I can read this stuff when our friend sends it to us - is that I read it with my mind looking for cult mind controlling statements to use in a thread like this one. I am totally able to tune my mind out and turn my mind off to any propaganda so it doesn't influence me- as of course you know I don't believe this $hit. But I feel it's important for newer JWN members to re-read these articles and see them in a different light than was presented to them at JW meetings. And it especially helps when you board members come on and give your takes on the material to enlighten newly exiting Witnesses as to just how insane this information is ! As you say " it should have made the papers." But that would expose the WT society- and they don't want that.
VAMPIRE- THanks. Exactly as you say ! WT society loves burdening the rank & file Witnesses, but won't budge a finger to lighten the load or perform loving decent works themselves. Your assessment is accurate - very Phariseeical.
DARINGHART 13 - Very true. WT society wants and indeed demands - blind obedience ! One reason they are definitely shown up to be a mind control cult.
OUTLAW- LOL ! WT society definitely sucks people in and gives it to them from the rear ! I'll tell you what- that is one smooth looking attractive butt you posted there ! But then I saw the hands and it looked like a man's hands ? The butt looks female, the hands look male ! Oh well, that way it appeals to everybody I guess ! LOL !
SHIRLEY W- I just looked at the article with the intent I had a job or mission to accomplish. When I approach it that way it's all business to me in that I'm seeking a higher purpose of informing people how insane this information is so they can see it for themselves. At this point being out 8 years - I'm pretty much beyond indoctrination methods of the WT society. But yes, I did need a glass of wine after I wrote it.
THE TRUE ONE- I hope you are right that the JW's base is shrinking in Europe - and in many other places for that matter. It's all about control how the WT society tries to instill fear and guilt into these Witnesses. Very dangerous when it's done to control 7 million people.
NO ROOM FOR GEORGE- Good points you make, thanks ! I remember always feeling sad and serious as well as a boy being taken to meetings. I had no joy either. As you stated the WT society makes JW's feel guilty over " natural desires & aspirations " as if having those desires and aspirations are wrong in themselves. It's ridiculous. WT society has always overstepped their boundaries in trying to micro-manage JW's lives. And as you say putting those controlling thoughts into the Baptism vows certainly shows the WT society is more concerned with Witnesses worshipping the WT society than worshipping God for sure.
CLARITY- Thanks so much for the link and article reference to how the Mormon's use very similar mind control tactics as the Jehovah's Witnesses do ! They are just as controlling and authoritative and will not tolerate any insubordination in any members - and kicks out any members who dissent ! It really is quite scary hoe controlling the WT leaders are getting. If they told 7million JW's to jump off a cliff - I'm sure many of those 7 million would ! And therein really lies the danger here.
WASBLIND- Exactly. Don't ask. Don't test. Don't seek. WT leaders do NOT want Witnesses checking them out on the Internet- or they WILL find lots of falsehoods abounding in the Witnesses.
CANTLEAVE- Good point. I do believe that many of our JW relatives think they WILL die if they contact us- for real ! It's fear mongering at it's worst by the WT leaders. I agree- I think the GB 2.0 are alive and unwell . And they are carrying on just as firmly as Ted Jaracz would have wanted them to ! It truly is scary for those still inside and controlled by it ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
I'll be back in awhile and respond to pg. 2 responders. Thanks again.