I must second what dear PSacto (the greatest of love and peace to you, dear one!) has stated and is trying to convey (may you ALL have peace!). The problem is that there is LOT of hypocritical finger-pointing... and generalizing. The message that many on BOTH sides tend to send is that "all atheists" such and so... and "all christians" such and so. True, atheists are a BIT more unified in their beliefs... but given that they're a fairly young UNITY (young meaning no longer having to hide)... we'll have to wait and see how that progresses (because christian unity was "young" once... and we see where THAT'S gone). Now, some will say that atheism will NOT follow the route of christianity... but those who believe that forget the one variable the two have in COMMON: humans. If anyone wants to sit here and say that atheism will NEVER engage in the atrocities that "christianity" has... I would say, "You don't know your history very well." And I don't mean Pol Pot, et al. - I'm thinking barbarians, ancient moguls, and others of that ilk.
The PROBLEM... IS intolerance... on BOTH sides... as well as a hypocritical aversion of each side to the other. I have rarely addressed atheists on this board (beyond the sundry thread on evolution, the evolution of HUMANS which is the ONLY "scientific" theory that I vehemently disagree with); yet, many atheists address ME and my comments. Over the years, however, these comments have gone from direct attacks, to strong contention, to reasonable discussion... to even concurrence in some instances. The same has occurred with "believers".
The bottom line, however, is that we, every ONE of us... atheist, unbeliever, agnostic, gnostic, believer "christian", "anointed"... or whatever we call ourselves and/or identify with... HAVE A CHOICE... as to what we believe/do not believe, what we will discuss ABOUT what we believe/do not believe... and with whom... and what we will read/listen to... and FROM whom.
It may SEEM like we don't have a choice... but we really do. Especially here. We can CHOOSE to open... or not open... a thread. We can CHOOSE to read... or not read... a post. We can CHOOSE to discuss... or not discuss... a topic. We can CHOOSE to ignore anyone... and anything... we CHOOSE. We can also choose... what comments we will ALLOW to offend us.
Don't agree with someone's beliefs, thoughts, comments, assertions? The TRULY INTELLIGENT thing is to state WHY you don't agree... and "because it irritates/pisses me off"... really isn't an intelligent response. It's the EASY one, yes... and probably the accurate one... but it doesn't help the other to SEE where YOU believe he/she is WRONG (because that IS what's irritating you, isn't it, your belief that they're wrong... either in WHAT they're saying... or HOW?).
Look, there are a LOT of super-intelligent people on this board. Formally educated and not so formally educated. Even if not, we're pretty much all adults. Rather than expressing our own personal irritation at someone else's believes... or delivery of those beliefs... why not SHOW them where they are wrong IN those beliefs... or, if you cannot, endeavor to UNDERSTAND their beliefs... or, if you cannot not... IGNORE their beliefs?
I mean... I'm just sayin'... don't we ALL have enough going on in REAL life (you know, in the REAL world we all live in outside of this board)... than to come HERE and take issues with others for doing the SAME thing we're doing... to one extent or another? I know I certainly do.
Whether you are a believer... or unbeliever... life is WAY too short... and many here have only recently given themselves permission to LIVE it... to waste it on taking offense at things YOU can control. Live YOUR life... and don't worry too much about how others are living theirs... including what they do... or do not... believe.
Again, I bid you all peace!
A slave of Christ,
SA, whose main concern is really only the truth about God and Christ. Because everything else is a bit of a moving target... and I'm already cross-eyed...