What is your definition of a "Fundi" or a Fundamentalist?

by brotherdan 236 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    How do you hear Christ?

    Greetings, dear Finger, and the greatest of love and peace to you! Forgive my verbosity, but I really wanted you to understand my response to your question (as it is a question many have, but few answer for them), so I gave you all of it:

    I hear, dear one, through the free gift of holy spirit that I received from my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit... which "water" cleansed me INSIDE... and so allows me to use one of subsequent gifts of that spirit: hearing/discerning spirits. Which I do with the ears my Lord "opened" for me, by means of such "water."

    My Lord’s voice is literal… and audible by the ears of flesh. He speaks “from the heavens"… the “kingdom”… which, right now, is inside me (and others, yes). This is where he and the Father come and make their abode… where they “dwell”, right now. But while they are in me (as they are in all of the Members of Christ's Body), the voice I hear isn’t IN me, per se. For example, I tend to wear ear plugs at night (because my dear husband snores – LOL!)… but when I put them in, he asks me to take them out because I can’t hear him. And he’s right – I don’t/can't hear his voice when they’re in!

    It is not a whispering voice as we know whispering (you know, with a lot of hissing sound, etc.). But is much like a whisper because it's always “in low tones" and soft, calm, kind, and loving. So, I sometimes have to be "still"... i.e., calm and clean of my own "stuff"... to hear it. And it is always calms and kind, even when it is correcting or disciplining me (it can be... ummmm... serious, but always loving). The best way I can describe it is to say that it is on a "higher" frequency than most ears can process... and I have been given access to the frequency (and, yes, I can sometimes hear even a spider crawling - LOLOLOLOL!).

    Early on, it kind of sounded like my own voice but he explained that when he starts he often speaks of us as we sound to others... first, so that we aren't alarmed by HIS voice, and second, so that we can "hear" HOW we sound to others (which isn't always all that nice, sad to say). For example, one dear related how my Lord spoke "sarcastically" to him once, and when he asked, "Why are you speaking to me that way?" he was told "Because that's the way you speak to others." Needless to say, the dear one really starting paying attention to how he addressed others from that point on!

    It is fascinating what I hear... and often see... and I've tried to relate much of it here, for the benefit of the Household of God, Israel, and those who go with them who are here. I haven't/don't/can't relate all, unfortunately, because it's just, well, sometimes too... the only word I can think of is "awesome"... to relate. I cannot put it into human words. Sometimes there just aren't any.

    His language is a kind of ancient dialect (which is why I sometimes come across so "formal")... which the Hebrew language derived from. I say "ancient" not because it's old but... (Shelby's mind churns)... because somehow I know it existed long, long before the physical universe did. Perhaps he told me that, I don't recall, but I somehow I don't think that's the only way I know. I think I know because I know it is a language that every living thing has the capacity to understand. Animals certainly hear and understand it. Even the oldest plants (trees) do. Indeed, it is the ONLY language that ALL living things... human, plant, animal... can equally understand.

    It is not a language with words, though; more like... the only word I can use is "math" (although that is NOT adequate, not by a stretch). Maybe "symbols that denote some kind of equation/completeness" is a more adequate way to describe it, but even then it's not quite there. I have recently come to know that my Lord's is an imitating voice, however. By that, I mean, a few months ago, while in a vision, I heard a voice say "Let light come forth/come to be" or something to that extent... and my Lord's voice is a kind of "imitation" of that voice - like... an ECHO of it (so that it is not actually "it" but sounds like it), yes!

    When I hear it, however... actually, when I hear any spirit voice... I usually hear it in English (not the voice, but what I hear), although not always, I can also hear the language "under" the English (i.e., I can hear "Hebrew", some of the tribal and nations dialects - "Midianite" "Amorite", etc. - "Aramic", "Chaldean", "Greek"), if that makes sense. I say usually because I have learned that I can also "interpret" certain "tongues" (about 2-3 human tongues and at least two non-human tongues). Although I cannot speak any of them (except Spanish, which is not one of them). The thing is, I can only do it if I HEAR them (because I hear HIM translating!) - reading them, however, is, well, "Greek" to me.

    Anyway, that's it. I don't mean to put anyone down, but I have to say it's kind of hard for me to understand when folks (the JWs, specifically) would say that they couldn't describe their anointing... nor professed a gift to manifest such anointing. That was always a conundrum for me. I mean, why GIVE folks a gift they can't share with/describe to others? If the gifts of the spirit are for building up the Body, what is the point in making them... unrealizable? I have since learned that all of the "mystery"... is the contrivance of those who really don't have such spirit. If they did... they COULDN'T be silent about it. It just doesn't work that way.

    I hope this helps, dear one, and again, peace to you!

    YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

    SA

  • The Finger
    The Finger

    AGuest,

    thank you for your explanation

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    "I remember a comment by the author of the bookThe Fire that Consumes, who, on dealing with a certain text that allowed for more than one explanation, said that he thought the right position toward the text was one of "reverent agnosticism," that is, out of respect for God being willing to admit that he did not know or was unsure. I am personally drawn to persons who acknowledge that they don't have all the answers, and repelled by those who gives the appearance of feeling that they do." - Ray Franz to Brotherdan

    That was a beautiful read and reflects much of my own feelings.

    -Sab

  • mindmelda
    mindmelda

    Someone called PS an atheist? LOL

    That's the definition of a Fundamentalist, pretty much, someone who thinks anyone who isn't as "in" with God as they are is an atheist!

    People who are cock sure of everything are pretty much misled about the nature of the universe AND God. If to know the nature of the universe is to know God, then they haven't learned much about either.

    The universe on any level is changed by our very observation of it, and our interaction with it. That means rules(which are mostly just stuff we make up to pitifully try to make sense of chaos) and concepts can change over time and with knowledge and if you believe God made it all, he intended that.

    And plain English please...it doesn't make any of you seem more spiritual to talk like an 18th century English vicar about to serve me cake or death, for heaven's sake!

  • TD
    TD
    That's the definition of a Fundamentalist, pretty much, someone who thinks anyone who isn't as "in" with God as they are is an atheist!

    LOL. We actually had a participant here a few years back who stated that liberal Christians were "Worse than athiests."

  • brotherdan
    brotherdan

    I've heard alot of the same sentiment, TD.

    There is a girl that I used to work with, and she makes the most sense to me, now, from a religious standpoint.

    She said, "When we get to heaven, God is going to say, "You guys were rediculous! You thought that EVERYTHING was a deal breaker. You thought that everything was so serious! But all I wanted was for you to love me and realize that you didn't have to feel so condemned because you were sinners. All I wanted was for you to acknowledge that Jesus died for your sins and that I am here with open arms to show you how precious and amazing you are! I gave you my Son to show you that. WHY WOULDN'T YOU LISTEN?!? It was all so trivial!"

    I was a JW at the time and thought that sounded retarded.

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    You are quite welcome, dear Finger (again, peace to you!). I like (and completely agree with) your co-worker's view... and heart... dear BroDan (peace to you, as well!).

    Peace to you all!

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

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