Did Jesus resurrect Himself?

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  • Think About It
    Think About It
    Who raised Jesus from the dead?
    Jesus raised himself from the dead.God raised him from the dead.
    John 2:19-21
    Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body.
    Acts 2:24
    Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

    Acts 2:32
    This Jesus hath God raised up....

    Acts 4:10
    Jesus Christ ... whom God raised from the dead....

    Acts 13:30
    But God raised him from the dead.

    Galatians 1:1
    Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

    Colossians 2:12
    Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

    1 Thessalonians 1:10
    ... his Son ... whom he raised from the dead.
  • brotherdan
    brotherdan

    If Jesus can RIGHTLY be called God, then this fits perfectly.

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    May you all have peace! I don't have a lot of time this morning (staff meeting in a few), but I wanted to give you something to think about:

    My Lord resurrected himself. He did this... because of the authority conferred upon him to do so... by the Father... who gave him the keys... to death and Hades. He did not have that authority on his own, but it was conferred upon him because he was worthy to receive it. Unlike Adham, who, like Simon, tried to BUY it... by selling his progeny.

    My Lord effected his own resurrection by means of God's blood, holy spirit. That blood "cleansed" him... and so removed his SIN (the death that was in the flesh he carried)... so that death could not HOLD him. Death currently has a hold on all that is sin, contains sin, and sins. Although my Lord was NOT sin and DID NOT sin... his body carried sin in it: ours. Which he took (when he healed people) into his flesh... and then with him to Sheol/Hades.

    He used God's holy spirit to "conquer" his flesh, however, and so by means of the CLEAN man he was on the INSIDE... "covered" the sins his vessel, the long garment of skin... the "soiled" outer garment... carried in it. As a result, he was given a CLEAN "turban"... and "robes of state".

    The Holy Spirit resurrected him... in the same way that he resurrected himself: he IS the Holy Spirit.

    So, one can say that my Lord was resurrected by himself, by the Holy Spirit... and by God... but NOT that he, the Holy Spirit, and God are one and the same. He and the Holy Spirit are one and the same... and so are in union with God... an entirely different Being. The Father... as opposed to the SON and Holy Spirit, whom my Lord is.

    All of this is written... even in the Bible. Ask my Lord, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit to "open up" the scriptures to YOU... and you will find where.

    Again, I bid you all peace... and ears to hear when the [Holy] Spirit and [his] Bride say to YOU:

    "Come! Take 'life's water'... the same holy spirit from God that raised up my Lord from the dead... and will bubble up in YOU... and impart everlasting life to YOU... just as that One SAID (John 4:14; 7:37, 38)... FREE!" (Revelation 22:17)

    Servant to the Household of God, Israel, those who go with... and a slave of Christ, the Holy Spirit,

    SA

  • brotherdan
    brotherdan

    but NOT that he, the Holy Spirit, and God are one and the same.

    I should've clarified, they are 3 different people. But all rightly called God.

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    TAI

    Don't forget:

    John 10:17

    "For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it again. 18"No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This commandment I received from My Father."

  • Think About It
    Think About It

    DID JESUS CHRIST RAISE HIMSELF FROM THE DEAD?

    By Ivan Maddox

    Atlanta, GA

    Did Jesus Christ raise himself from the dead? Was his resurrection a proof of his own identity, or was it evidence of the power of God, evidence that he was the man God chose and marked out as the Messiah?

    How we answer this question will depend on what our standard for truth is. If the Word of God is our standard for truth, then what it says will determine what we believe. If, instead, the traditions of men hold greater sway over our hearts than the testimony of scripture, we will hold fast to whatever we happen to believe on the subject, regardless of whether that puts us in agreement with, or disagreement with, the scriptures.

    Two passages of scripture are sometimes used to argue that Jesus Christ raised himself from the dead, and thus exhibited powers far beyond the abilities of mortal men. They argue that this constitutes a proof that Jesus was not a mere man, but was, in fact, God or a superhuman being in the flesh.

    The first of these passages is found in the second chapter of the gospel of John.

    John 2:19-21.

    19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

    20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

    21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

    On the surface, this looks like a clear statement that Jesus said he would raise himself from the dead. But is it?

    First, we need to notice that Jesus is not speaking literally. He is speaking in a figure. Verse 21 makes it clear that the temple he is speaking of is his body, so there is no question that he is referring to his resurrection. But is he prophesying that he will raise himself from the dead?

    Two things make it especially important that we understand this prophecy correctly. First, in verse 18 of this chapter we are informed that Jesus offered this as a sign to the Jews.

    John 2:18-19.

    18 Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?

    19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

    Jesus had just cleansed the temple of merchants and merchandise. The Jews challenged him, asking him for a sign in light of what he had done. Jesus responded with this prophecy about his resurrection.

    In Deuteronomy 18, the seriousness of this is explained.

    Deuteronomy 18:18-22.

    18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

    19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

    20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

    21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?

    22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

    Since this was presented as a sign, the integrity of Jesus’ mission depends on whether or not it was completely and accurately fulfilled. If, for instance, Jesus meant that he would raise himself from the dead, but in fact someone else raised him from the dead, his sign would have failed to come to pass completely and accurately. In that case, the Jews would have been justified in rejecting his ministry, based on the failure of the sign he gave to be accurately fulfilled.

    Second, there is not one single passage of scripture that teaches that this prophecy was fulfilled the way Jesus said it. This is a serious problem. If scripture were silent about how the prophecy was fulfilled, there might be some justification for arguing that it had to be fulfilled the way he said it. But the explicit testimony of scripture is that it was NOT fulfilled this way.

    The apostle Peter was present when Jesus made this prophecy. At the time he, like the others present, did not understand what Jesus was talking about.

    John 2:21-22.

    21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

    22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

    It was only after Jesus was raised from the dead that they understood what he had been saying to them. How, then, did Peter understand his Master’s words, in light of his resurrection?

    On the day of Pentecost, when he preached the first sermon of the Christian age, Peter testified that God raised Jesus from the dead.

    Acts 2:22-24.

    22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

    23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

    24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

    Acts 2:32.

    32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

    Throughout his ministry, as detailed in the Book of Acts, Peter continued to teach the same thing.

    Acts 3:14-15.

    14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

    15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

    Acts 4:10.

    10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

    Acts 10:37-40

    37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;

    38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

    39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

    40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;

    At the end of his ministry, when he wrote his epistles, Peter was still teaching the same thing.

    I Peter 1:18-21.

    18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

    19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

    20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

    21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

    The apostle Paul consistently taught the same thing during his ministry.

    Romans 10:9.

    9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    Ephesians 1:17-20.

    17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

    18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

    19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

    20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

    Acts 13:30-37.

    30 But God raised him from the dead:

    31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.

    32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,

    33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

    34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.

    35 Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

    36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:

    37 But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.

    I Corinthians 15:15.

    15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

    Acts 17:31.

    …he hath raised him from the dead.

    Romans 4:24.

    …if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead

    Romans 6:4.

    …Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father

    Romans 8:11.

    11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

    I Corinthians 6:14.

    14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

    Galatians 1:1.

    1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

    Colossians 2:12.

    …God, who hath raised him from the dead

    I Thessalonians 1:9-10.

    And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus…

    But the most damaging witness against this interpretation of Jesus’ words in John 2:19 may be the quietest: John himself.

    John 2:22.

    22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

    This passage looks somewhat ambiguous in the King James Version. It is not ambiguous in the New American Standard Version.

    John 2:22 (NASV)

    22 So when He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He said this; and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had spoken.

    The New American Standard correctly and clearly translates the verb tense used here, and reveals a critical truth: John himself, in the very passage we are discussing testified that Jesus did not raise himself from the dead!

    The testimony of scripture is clear and unanimous in testifying that Jesus did not raise himself from the dead. But what did Jesus mean when he said he would raise the temple, meaning his body, in three days?

    Before we consider this, we need to look at another passage of scripture which refers to resurrection.

    I Thessalonians 4:16.

    16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    If we were to try to force a literal interpretation here, the same way many try to do in John 2:19, we would be forced to conclude that those who are dead in Christ when he returns will RAISE THEMSELVES from the dead; for this verse does not say that they will BE RAISED, but rather that they SHALL RISE. However, we understand correctly from other scripture on the same subject that this is not the case. Therefore, even though the words in the verse say that the dead "shall rise", we understand the verse to mean that the dead will be raised. We understand that the writer was using vivid language to make his point; but we do not confuse ourselves about what the point is.

    So how are we to understand John 2:19? In the Old Testament, prophets are sometimes represented as performing things which they were commissioned by God merely to reveal.* In Isaiah 6:10, God instructs Isaiah to:

    Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

    Does this mean that Isaiah has the power to close men’s hearts, cover their ears or shut their eyes? No. But what God was going to allow to happen he transferred to Isaiah by a figure.

    God told Jeremiah:

    Jeremiah 1:9a-10.

    9a. Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.

    10 See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.

    Did Jeremiah pull down or destroy or build even one nation? Not at all. God transferred what He Himself was going to do to the nations to Jeremiah, in a figure.

    This is the same thing God is doing in John 2:19 with Jesus. Though the text literally says that Jesus would raise up the temple, which was his body, in three days, it is clear from this and every other scripture on the subject that God Himself raised Jesus from the dead. This passage must be understood in this light. Otherwise, honesty requires that we explain each and every single passage of scripture that testifies that God raised Jesus from the dead, and reconcile it with the OPPOSITE teaching allegedly found in John 2:19. We must also explain why Paul and the other apostles were not, in Paul’s words, "false witnesses of God" when they testified that God raised Jesus from the dead, if, as some allege, that is not at all what happened.

    There is one other verse of scripture that is sometimes used to teach that Jesus raised himself from the dead. This verse also is found in the gospel of John.

    John 10:17-18.

    17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

    18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

    The King James Version makes it appear that Jesus is talking about his own ability here. Nothing could be further from the truth. The New American Standard Version has a better translation of this verse.

    John 10:18 (NASV).

    18 No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This commandment I received from My Father.

    Here it is clear that the issue is not ability, but rather authority. And the source of that authority was Jesus’ Father, from whom he received the commandment to lay down his life, that he might take it again.

    Does the fact that Jesus was to "take… up again" his life mean that he was to do this by his own power, or on his own initiative? Not at all. This is made clearer when we look at a passage of scripture dealing with our own resurrection.

    Matthew 16:24-27.

    24 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.

    25 For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will find it.

    26 What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?

    27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has done.

    Here finding one’s life in verse 25 is tied in verse 27 to receiving your reward for what you have done. This makes it clear that finding your life is not something you do, but rather something that is to be done for you – even though an ACTIVE verb is used to describe what is happening.

    In the same way, though an active verb – "take up" – is used in John 10:18, it must be understood in light of other scripture on this same subject. The use of an active verb is not conclusive evidence that personal activity is meant.

    The Greek word translated "receive" in John 10:18 is LAMBANO. This word is used 263 times in the New Testament, and is translated in the King James Version "receive" 133 times, "take" 106 times, and various other ways 24 times. It can legitimately mean both "take" and "receive." It’s meaning must be determined by the context.

    Here, if we translate it "take", this one verse disagrees with every other passage of scripture in the Bible concerning who raised Christ from the dead. If we translate it "receive," it is in agreement with all other scripture on the subject.

    How do you think LAMBANO should be translated in this verse?

    If we choose to translate it "take" in this verse, honesty requires that we explain each instance where scripture seems to testify THE OPPOSITE of what this verse seems to say, just as I have taken the time here to explain the two verses that seem to stand in opposition to every other passage of scripture on this subject. I know of no one who believes that Jesus Christ raised himself from the dead who has attempted to do this. I look forward to seeing the fruit of their efforts.

    What is your conclusion? Did God raise Jesus from the dead? Or did Jesus raise himself?

    Hebrews 5:7-9.

    7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

    8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

    9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him.

  • brotherdan
    brotherdan

    That was a long article. He had to do a lot of mental gymnastics to get around those 2 scriptures where Jesus raised up his own body. The easy solution is that while the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all distinctly 3 people, they can ALL be called God. So God DID raise Jesus up from the dead. Chist IS God.

  • undercover
    undercover
    That was a long article. Would you care to summarize so I don't have to read the whole thing?

    So much for research on the subject...

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog
    What is your conclusion? Did God raise Jesus from the dead? Or did Jesus raise himself?

    According to the bible, sense Jesus is God...

    all of the above.

  • whereami
    whereami

    For some reason watching/listening to Christian folk debate over these things reminds me of the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

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