by EndofMysteries 83 Replies latest watchtower bible
Hi deputydog
I was simply commenting on jgnats examples on literature placed as preaching work. If Gideons preach outside of this JGnat did not mention this and I have certainly never known about them preaching from Door to door.
It's understanding first what the bible means by preaching work and not putting modern ideas on what is preaching work is. Putting these in place of People preaching God's message to other People using God's word the bible specifically as part of this.
Hi Jgnat and Isaac
People becoming witnesses is more to do with their personal interest than how we sell the product. The biblical method of person to person contact with Biblical explanation is an established one that lets the bible and preacher work together to bring truth to preaching. If I teach the Soul is immortal/undying as a trinitarian how would I explain this against Ezekiel 18:4 The soul who sins is the one who will die. A person can check my teaching against the bible and see whether it is correct or not.
In the context Jesus was talking to his twelve apostles and he stated "this good news of the kingdom" would be preached to the whole earth. He was talking about the same good news he had been preaching and the same good news that they had been preaching. Of course in Watchtower land he EVIDENTY meant the good news that he would be enthroned in 1914 blah blah blah blah blah but that Good News didn't get preached until the 1900's.
If I teach the Soul is immortal/undying as a trinitarian how would I explain this against Ezekiel 18:4 The soul who sins is the one who will die.
An immortal soul does NOT equal one that can't die, if you'd watch Highlander you'd know that.
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debator: Door to door preaching as done by JWs today is not Biblically precedented. The Bible says this good news will be preached, it does not define how, or by what method.
Debator, the org, and in turn, you have Ezek 18:4 totally out of context. Soul can mean the whole person, as it does in this case...as the account later goes on to say that the soul doing righteousness would be preserved alive. Soul can also refer to the immaterial part of a person. The ssame as peak can refer to a mountain, or a part of a mountain.
Debator is a Bullshit Artist..
95% of all WBT$ Literature..
Ends up in the spare bedroom,or garage of Jehovah`s Witness`s..
Nobody wants that crap..
Hardly anyone see`s JW`s going door to door anymore..
It`s easier to drop off WBT$ literature at a laundry mat or Dentisits office..
When JW`s do come to your door..They won`t tell you who they are..
If you ask questions they don`t like,they say they have to leave..
What kind of World Wide Preaching is that?..
It`s all BullShit just like everything else in Watchtower World..
Soul:
1) soul, self, life, creature, person, appetite, mind, living being, desire, emotion, passion
a) that which breathes, the breathing substance or being, soul, the inner being of man
b) living being
c) living being (with life in the blood)
d) the man himself, self, person or individual
e) seat of the appetites
f) seat of emotions and passions
g) activity of mind
1) dubious
h) activity of the will
1) dubious
i) activity of the character
1) dubious
Debabor
I touched briefly on the possibility that the WTS could be false prophet using the scriptural precedent at Duet 18 , they have after all consistently made failed prophetic proclamations over a 100 year period, care to explain my current viewpoint?
Let us look at Ezekiel 18 shall we?
The Soul Who Sins Will Die
18 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel:
“ ‘The fathers eat sour grapes,
and the children’s teeth are set on edge’?
3 “As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord , you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. 4 For every living soul belongs to me, the father as well as the son—both alike belong to me. The soul who sins is the one who will die.
5 “Suppose there is a righteous man
who does what is just and right.
6 He does not eat at the mountain shrines
or look to the idols of the house of Israel.
He does not defile his neighbor’s wife
or lie with a woman during her period.
7 He does not oppress anyone,
but returns what he took in pledge for a loan.
He does not commit robbery
but gives his food to the hungry
and provides clothing for the naked.
8 He does not lend at usury
or take excessive interest. a
He withholds his hand from doing wrong
and judges fairly between man and man.
9 He follows my decrees
and faithfully keeps my laws.
That man is righteous;
he will surely live,
declares the Sovereign Lord .
10 “Suppose he has a violent son, who sheds blood or does any of these other things b 11 (though the father has done none of them):
“He eats at the mountain shrines.
He defiles his neighbor’s wife.
12 He oppresses the poor and needy.
He commits robbery.
He does not return what he took in pledge.
He looks to the idols.
He does detestable things.
13 He lends at usury and takes excessive interest.
Will such a man live? He will not! Because he has done all these detestable things, he will surely be put to death and his blood will be on his own head.
14 “But suppose this son has a son who sees all the sins his father commits, and though he sees them, he does not do such things:
15 “He does not eat at the mountain shrines
or look to the idols of the house of Israel.
He does not defile his neighbor’s wife.
16 He does not oppress anyone
or require a pledge for a loan.
He does not commit robbery
but gives his food to the hungry
and provides clothing for the naked.
17 He withholds his hand from sin c
and takes no usury or excessive interest.
He keeps my laws and follows my decrees.
He will not die for his father’s sin; he will surely live. 18 But his father will die for his own sin, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother and did what was wrong among his people.
19 “Yet you ask, ‘Why does the son not share the guilt of his father?’ Since the son has done what is just and right and has been careful to keep all my decrees, he will surely live. 20 The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.
21 “But if a wicked man turns away from all the sins he has committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. 22 None of the offenses he has committed will be remembered against him. Because of the righteous things he has done, he will live. 23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord . Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?
24 “But if a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked man does, will he live? None of the righteous things he has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness he is guilty of and because of the sins he has committed, he will die.
25 “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Hear, O house of Israel: Is my way unjust? Is it not your ways that are unjust? 26 If a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin, he will die for it; because of the sin he has committed he will die. 27 But if a wicked man turns away from the wickedness he has committed and does what is just and right, he will save his life. 28 Because he considers all the offenses he has committed and turns away from them, he will surely live; he will not die. 29 Yet the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Are my ways unjust, O house of Israel? Is it not your ways that are unjust?
30 “Therefore, O house of Israel, I will judge you, each one according to his ways, declares the Sovereign Lord . Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. 31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, O house of Israel? 32 For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign Lord . Repent and live!
