Jehovah's Witnesses---A Cult or Not?

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  • mrsjones5

    This fits the bOrg to a "T":


    Copyright 1985, 1991 Jan Groenveld

    8. SUMMARY
    There has been much confusion about cults and how to 'pickem'.

    Some have difficulty identifying a cult because it is not so easy to identify one that is not even religious. For this reason, over the years, different definitions of what actually is a cult have developed to make it easier when you know little about their beliefs.

    The different definitions:


    CULT - From the Latin "cultis" which denotes all that is involved in worship, ritual, emotion, liturgy and attitude. This definition actually denotes what we call denominations and sects and would make all religious movements a cult.


    CULT - Any group which deviates from Biblical, orthodox, historical Christianity. e.i. They deny the Deity of Christ; His physical resurrection; His personal and physical return to earth and salvation by FAITH alone.

    This definition only covers those groups which are cults within the Christian religion. It does not cover cults within other wobld religions such as Islam and Hinduism. Nor does it cover Psychological, Commercial or Educational cults which do not recognize the Bible as a source of reality.


    CULT - Any group which has a pyramid type authoritarian leadership structure with all teaching and guidance coming from the person/persons at the top. The group will claim to be the only way to God; Nirvana; Paradise; Ultimate Reality; Full Potential, Way to Happiness etc, and will use thought reform or mind control techniques to gain control and keep their members. This definition covers cults within all majopr world religions, along with those cults which have no OBVIOUS religious base such as commercial, educational and psychological cults. Others may define these a little differently, but this is the simplest to work from. THE 'ORTHODOX BIBLE-BASED CULT'

    A group is called a cult because of their behaviour - not their doctrines. Doctrine is an issue in the area of Apologetics and Heresy. Most religious cults do teach what the Christian church would declare to be heresy but some do not. Some cults teach the basics of the Christian faith but have behavioural patterns that are abusive, controlling and cultic.

    This occurs in both Non-Charismatic and Charismatic churches. These groups teach the central doctrines of the Christian faith and then add the extra authority of leadership or someone's particular writings. They centre around the interpretations of the leadership and submissive and unquestioning acceptance of these is essential to be a member of good standing. This acceptance includes what we consider non-essential doctrines e.i. not salvation issues (such as the Person and Work of Christ.) The key is that they will be using mind control or undue influence on their members.

    An excellent book on this subject is "Churches that Abuse" by Dr Ronald Enroth.

    Using these guidelines of definition, Bible-based, Psychological, Educational and Commercial aberrations can easily be identified.


    (a) The group will have an ELITIST view of itself in relation to others, and a UNIQUE CAUSE. e.i. THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES RIGHT - everyone else is wrong. THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES DOING GOD'S WILL - everyone else is in apostasy.

    (b) They will promote their cause actively, and in doing so, abuse God-given personal rights and freedoms. This abuse can be THEOLOGICAL, SPIRITUAL, SOCIAL & PSYCHOLOGICAL.


    1. Their leader/s may claim a special, exclusive ministry, revelation or position of authority given by God.

    2. They believe they are the only true church and take a critical stance regarding the Christian church while at the same time praising and exalting their own group, leader/s and work.

    3. They use intimidation or psychological manipulation to keep members loyal to their ranks. This could be in the form of threats of dire calamity sent by God if they leave; certain death at Armageddon; being shunned by their family and friends etc. This is a vital part of the mind control process.

    4. Members will be expected to give substantial financial support to the group. This could be compulsory tithing (which is checked); signing over all their property on entering the group; coercive methods of instilling guilt on those who have not contributed; selling magazines, flowers or other goods for the group as part of their "ministry".

    5. At the same time bible-based cults may ridicule churches that take up free-will offerings by passing collection plates and/or sell literature and tapes. They usually brag that they don't do this. This gives outsiders the intimation that they are not interested in money.

    6. There will be great emphasis on loyalty to the group and its teachings. The lives of members will be totally absorbed into the group's activities. They will have little or no time to think for themselves because of physical and emotional exhaustion. This is also a vital part of the mind control process.

    7. There will be total control over almost all aspects of the private lives of members. This control can be direct through communal living, or constant and repetitious teaching on "how to be a true Christian" or "being obedient to leadership". Members will look to their leaders for guidance in everything they do.

    8. Bible-based cults may proclaim they have no clergy/laity distinction and no paid ministry class - that they are all equal.

    9. Any dissent or questioning of the group's teachings is discouraged. Criticism in any form is seen as rebellion. There will be an emphasis on authority, unquestioning obedience and submission. This is vigilantly maintained.

    10. Members are required to demonstrate their loyalty to the group in some way. This could be in the form of "dobbing" on fellow members (including family) under the guise of looking out for "spiritual welfare".

      They may be required to deliberately lie (heavenly deception/theocratic strategy) or give up their lives by refusing some form of medical treatment.

    11. Attempts to leave or reveal embarrassing facts about the group may be met with threats. Some may have taken oaths of loyalty that involve their lives or have signed a "covenant" and feel threatened by this.

      Refugees of the group are usually faced with confrontations by other members with coercion to get them to return to the group.


    1. ABUSE OF INDIVIDUALITY They adopt a "groupness" mentality. They are not permitted to think for themselves apart from the group and only accept what they are told.

    2. ABUSE OF INTIMACY Relationships with friends, relatives, spouses, children, parents etc are broken or seriously hampered.

    3. ABUSE OF FINANCES Pressure to give all you can to the group. In non-communal groups, members usually live at the lower socio-economic strata, not because of a lower income level, but because they are always giving money to the group for some reason.

    4. "US VERSUS THEM" MENTALITY Isolation from the community in general. Anyone and everything outside the group is seen as "of the devil" or "unenlightened" etc. Their enemies now include former friends; the Christian church; governments; education systems; the media - the world in general. Those who are involved with these in any way see such involvement as a "means to an end".

    5. ABUSE OF TIME AND ENERGY The group controls and uses almost all the members time and energy in group activities. They are usually in a constant state of mental and physical exhaustion.

    6. ABUSE OF FREE WILL They must unquestioning submit to the groups teachings and directions and their own free will is broken. Their "will" actually becomes the groups "will" without their realizing it. This is done either by coercive methods including low protein diets and lack of sleep, or over a period of time through intimidation. Both methods make heavy use of "guilt".


      Relatives will say they no longer recognize the person. From a warm, loving personality will come heaped abuse, rejection and feelings of hate. The cult member sees himself as "righteous" in comparison and this comes across in their attitude toward all outsiders.

      They cannot see themselves as individuals apart from the group. Some even change their name as a rejection of their former life.

      Any time you say anything negative about the group, whether justified or no, it is regarded as "persecution". Any criticism of the individual is also seen as persecution only because they are the "true Christian" or "enlightened" one - not because they, as an individual, have done the wrong thing. However, at the same time they will feel free to criticise whatever you believe, say and do because they are "the only ones who are right".

      They lose their ability to socialize outside the group. This can go so far as to not being able to structure their time or make simple decisions for themselves when they leave.

      Their world-view alters and they perceive the world through their leaders eyes. They become very naive about life in general.

      They are made to feel guilty of everything they did before entering the group and are to strive to be "good" and "worthy" for "eternal life". Misdemeanors are made into "mountains" so that members are in a constant state of guilt for infringing even the most minor rules. Guilt comes because they aren't doing enough; entertaining doubts or questions; even thinking rationally for oneself.

      This guilt is piled upon pile with new rules constantly being laid down about what is sinful and what is not. Illness may be seen as lack of faith - more guilt. Emotional illness may be seen as proof of sin in your life - more guilt.


    Not all these points will be found in every cult, but all cults will have some if not most of them, although these may vary to some degree.

  • Son of Man
    Son of Man

    Son of man

    Jehovah's Witnesses face strict sanction, and even expulsion, for the simple matter of disagreeing with the GB. You are mistaken, JW's are a cult.

    So do other christian religions......a Cult has to be set-apart from the normal society. The study "Christianity" which is not apart from normal society but a huge part of it.....

  • palmtree67

    Fact: You cannot come and go freely from the Jw's.

    That makes them a cult.

  • dinah

    a Cult has to be set-apart from the normal society

    and the Watchtower does what?

  • dinah

    Honestly, imho, The Witnesses aren't even a Christian religion. Jesus only mediates for the 144,000. That is NOT biblical. (Just using the Bible for arguments sake here)

  • AllTimeJeff
    So do other christian religions......a Cult has to be set-apart from the normal society. The study "Christianity" which is not apart from normal society but a huge part of it.....

    Normal activities such as Christmas, Holidays, interactions with family who are either put out of JW's or otherwise were never a part of JW's demonstrate your very definition.

    JW's are not part of normal society and take great pain and great pride in pointing this out.

  • dinah

    Yes, Jeff. They actually call "Christians" Christendom and say she is the harlot from Revelations.

    If you cease to attend a Christian church they will still speak to you. The shunnign is what makes them a cult, imho. It's just a power move to shut you up or keep the rest of the flock away from someone who can explain that they are wrong.

  • Son of Man
    Son of Man

    Ok, well I have to sign off for the night......have a great night everyone....


  • Lillith26


    The religion that you are obviously a member of fits all the criteria you have cut and pasted..... this explains your cult perfectly....

    1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
    2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, esp. as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
    3. the object of such devotion.
    4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
    5. Sociology. a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.
    6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.
    7. the members of such a religion or sect.
    8. any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific.

    Bible 1 you have a book that explains your ceremonies and rites, that also contains ideology that is sure to keep you living outside of 'conventional' society.......

    Hear Ye All of your buildings used to host your cults ceremonies are indeed run by leaders... but I would NOT call most of these leaders 'charismatic'- most are so boring to listen too, that people have been know to fall asleep during a sermon......

    Ark Did I mention your book contains false and or misleading information and radical/extreme claims?????? first sin explains all health problems and death???????????

    Fish 2 Trinity Circles Celtic Cross Star - I have no idea what these symbols are for.... but hey.... neither do you!

    Please do us all a huge favour and start your own thread- you've ruffled enough feathers on this one

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  • The Almighty Homer
    The Almighty Homer

    Studies performed by those who believe that some religious groups do practice mind control have identified a number of key steps in coercive persuasion:

    People are put in physically or emotionally distressing situations; ......( Armageddon is immediately coming )

    Their problems are reduced to one simple explanation, which is repeatedly emphasized; ...... ( Satan is controlling this system of things )

    They receive unconditional love, acceptance, and attention from a charismatic leader; ........( close and personal love from the brothers and sisters and overseers )

    They get a new identity based on the group; ....... ( Brother so and so and Sister so and so, a formation of a family together in unison )

    They are subject to entrapment (isolation from friends, relatives, and the mainstream culture) and their access to information is severely controlled

    ( Must only keep close associations with members and avoid or restrain making relationships who are not. )

    ( disfellowship or shun individuals, even immediate family members, that criticize the leadership and their established doctrines )

    ( Only clean and righteous direction comes from the leadership, all other spiritual guidance from other sources is false and evil )

    Yes the WTS does have cultish attributes when you analise the organization and how they operate themselves.

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