What I got from his post, and what others got was different. I took context in. But I also took the fact that this was about love- IMO, shadow and 'wus' self were being melded because of being in love. This was taking very literal by some, and while I am new... I would suggest perhaps looking up something like shadow self before condemning? Also... while I am not into BDSM, maybe a spanking, but not the hardcore stuff, I find it offensive that so many people jumped straight to the conclusion that someone is sick and needs psychiatric help. There is a big difference between what he stated, and being a child molester, or Charles Manson. While people jumped to the conclusion he was itching to hurt people, if you take notice, it was very general. It was not geared to a specific person, group of persons... and it was denoting chaos, to watch the world burn is not saying he is lighting up the world, more that he caused chaos, he rocked the boat on an epic scale and got to take credit for it. IMHO anyway, that is what it said to me. Our shadow self, while darker is not evil... It is often the non PC, the bitch within, the one who wants to take what we deserve. It is in combat with the lighter self- polite, may get stepped on to avoid confrontation... the softer side. Neither is wrong, we need to be able to meld the two to be complete. Not everything is cotton candy and rainbows inside... there is dirt and grit and heartache that feels like it can tear us apart. Avoiding the parts of us that are not 'acceptable' means we are lying. To ourselves, to others... to a deity, should we be following one. To me, the OP was metaphorical, and many took it very literally. As for saying that there is something wrong with wanting to see someone suffer... then something is wrong with me. I was raped... and I entertain the fantasy that should he get caught, he gets a long term in prison with bubba 'the very large', as his cell mate. I would that he gets butt raped and is as scared as I. You can say all you want about how bad a person I am, but this is my fantasy. He took something from me, and that silly little violent fantasy makes me feel like I have some power back. I have come a far way from the person I was. I can recognize fantasy from reality. His post was not literal, and he should not be condemned for a generalization that was obviously not meaning he was gonna light us all up lols. There are some that are more sensitive to pain. I would actually consider myself one of them. I can feel people, take that as you will. But there is a big difference between actually committing an act, and fantasy. Those who fantasize dont automatically go out and commit said heinous act. I am surprised how many read the post.. and did not actually read all of it. They clamped down on one point... and held on for dear life, even when it was pointed out that there was more to it. One last thought before I step off my soap box. Realization and actualization are very different. To know something about yourself does NOT mean you will carry out that knowledge- good or bad. Namaste