Dark Impulses

by coolhandluke 124 Replies latest members adult

  • bigwilly
    bigwilly

    While I can't comment on Jung or his definitions (haven't done the reading or research), I think it's healthy to acknowledge one's own dark side. It's easier to blame evil, Satan, etc than to accept that each and everyone of us has the potential to do harm to another.

    CHL has and always will have my respect, he is one of the most self actualized people I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. The fact that a person has taken the time to observe their darkside, acknowledge it and embrace it is impressive to me. This is much healthier and well adjusted that sticking one's head in the sand and denying one's own nature.

  • Mary
    Mary

    I guess I'm having a long blonde moment, and am apparently the only one who doesn't get it.......

  • bigwilly
    bigwilly

    I guess I'm having a long blonde moment, and am apparently the only one who doesn't get it.......

    Mary, you'll always be my favorite blond

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    I guess I'm having a long blonde moment, and am apparently the only one who doesn't get it....... Thats probably cos you never did the drug thingy....I understand from all the scary things the druggies say ( when they quit doing them ) That many dark thoughts come into their mind,
    Guess we were in a "drugged" state while we were in the WT.... I cant believe I was so overcome with mind control....

  • bigwilly
    bigwilly

    So now CHL and I are druggies?

  • VoidEater
    VoidEater

    I think we all have a dark part of ourselves, what Jung called the Shadow.

    What specifically might be in our Shadows is individual - what we would allow ourselves to become aware of is much less than what might lie there.

    The more we can acknowledge our Shadow, the less it is likely to covertly play through us.

    Acknowledging what we are capable of is healthy. Choosing to act constructively and creatively is maturity - or loving.

  • coolhandluke
    coolhandluke

    thank you for the different opinions and the sharing. giving so freely of yourselves is really cool, so thank you. and no i dont do drugs. i was born this way and shaped by my non drug experiences but thanks mouthy for extruding my words down to some deviant behavior that completely ignores everything i've said and places me in a category of the ignorable.

  • VoidEater
    VoidEater

    Just my limited world: the people that have been the most abusive have been the loudest, preaching of the straight and narrow road that must be followed to be good, to gain slavation. These people would never think to use drugsm not even cigarettes.

    Then there's the people who have experimented, or regulary used, or terribly abused certain substances - I'm thinking of marijuana and ecstasy, primarily. Those are the ones that people I know have regularly used. Add in occasional use of psychedelics - mushrooms, LSD, ayahuasca, ketamine - and there's a somehwat larger group to survey.

    In my life, the straight and narrow types have been...challenging. As I said, abusive, verbally, physically, emotionally. Sexually.

    The "druggies" have been inquisitive, caring, mellow.

    There have been bad trips in the substance using crowds - and sometimes that was clearly about seeing things about themselves that were hard to accept.

    There has been mental illness and mind control in the straight and narrow crowd.

    So, this in no way is meant to excuse bad behavior nor encourage drug use - or even stereotype one group versus another. It is merely some observations I have been in a position to make.

    Anyone that has done traditional therapy will have come across dark parts of themselves as they struggle to find their way, if they have been working to any degree with honesty and a willingness to face their own whole selves.

    If someone can reach a degree of honesty about seeing theose parts of ourselves that we tend to deny - they will only get my respect. Some may need altered states to see clearly when they come back, others may use therapy to work on themselves - for some few, perhaps seeing the world from the perspective of love realized is all that it takes.

    Most of us cause harm to each other - hopefully it's usually a small slight, due to inattention or a lapse of conscientiousness. The more we are aware of our potentials - for good and for bad - the more we can make loving choices.

  • coolhandluke
    coolhandluke
    No, not that I think you would act out on these thoughts/ideas/impulses, but that you're open to accepting the darkness as part of who you are and centered enough to acknowledge it out loud. It's taken me a long, long time just to forgive myself for having those thoughts. I've never acted, but I've felt horrible for years just thinking some dark things. So thanks for giving me the opportunity to voice this out loud (at least typing it out loud) for the first time.

    Thank you so much for sharing this. I'm really really honored that you'd post something so close to the vest. Thank you for that.

  • Crumpet
    Crumpet
    Interesting thread. Actually CHL, I'm not at all surprised by what you've said about yourself. No, not that I think you would act out on these thoughts/ideas/impulses, but that you're open to accepting the darkness as part of who you are and centered enough to acknowledge it out loud. It's taken me a long, long time just to forgive myself for having those thoughts. I've never acted, but I've felt horrible for years just thinking some dark things. So thanks for giving me the opportunity to voice this out loud (at least typing it out loud) for the first time.

    Big Tex - I think you understand entirely where he is coming from. Perhaps it is the rarity. But I confess like sweetstuff of imagining be the sword of destruction for one or two people in the past because the world would be a better place without them.

    I watch extremely violent horror movies and play videogames where the object is to kill, that tends to get most of the angry feelings out and let the sunshine in, but I feel much more mellow and calm and a deserve to preserve and nurture life wherever it abounds than destroy it these days. Must be love.

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