inrainbows: That about covers it.
I apologize for my obtusity. I couldn't find where that site addressed anything except arguments I (for one) never put forward. Perhaps you could show how that site you linked to "covers" my response. I didn't really enjoy having the well poisoned, so to speak, since I doubt I ever would have read the "Leader's Guide" but have now been exposed to some of its contents in such a way that I cannot fairly deny whether its contents are partially informing some of my viewpoints.
A horse cross-bred with an ass produces a mule. A mule cross-bred with a mule produces what? I never argued, if you examine my statement carefully, that mules are always infertile. I said, in essence, that mules are not a viable species in their own right. I daresay you would not disagree with what I said, would you?
Without being rude, you are intimating that language has some correlation to the subject under discussion instead of laying the matter firmly to rest by citing your best case of macro evolution which proves, conclusively, that extraspecial evolution has ever occurred. A poster inferred that only the uninitiated would accept micro evolution without accepting, as a logical extension, macro evolution. In terms more crude, I invited the scientifically minded on the forum to put up or shut up on the subject of macro evolution.
If it is established, prove it. That should be simple enough. Don't hypothesize it or lead by inquiry to that conclusion . . . show it. If it is real it should be an easily accomplished task.
Back to the subject of known design . . . with the advent of Object Oriented Programming, Artificial Intelligence, and Self-Modifying Code or Adaptive Code, comparisons which previously could not be effectively made between genetic code and known design can now be easily made. The great likelihood is that the more refined our known designs become in this vein of endeavor, the more closely similar examples of known design will become when compared with the sleek functionality of DNA, RNA, and mRNA.
I believe the wide variety of life that cannot mate but which shares a similar base set of code now has a very close parallel in known design. It already shows all signs of trending much more closely toward similarity with biological processes in the future. Of course, this particular arena of known design is still very much in its infancy, but earthmen have only been around for a few thousand years, geologically speaking.