sammielee
I do believe you refering to the infamous bit of conspiracist dishonesty where Larry's statement taht they are going to "pull it". I have yet to find anyone other than a 911 Conspiracist saying 'pull' is a demolition industry term, but regardless of their unfounded claims it is obvious from the context and reference to the loss of life that had already occured he's talking about them pulling the firecrews from WTC7. As I've alreadt stated, despite the lies by conspiracists that the builing was essentially undamaged, it was damaged enough to have the NYPD fit motion sesors to it and then evacuate the crews when the sensors showed the building was going to collapse. They showed shifts in its structure c. 1 hour before collapse; these shifts in its structure are explicable by slow weakening, wharping and internal settling up to the point there was a major structural failure that propogated rapidly to cause a global collapse.
As I say, you were suckered.
Listen to the video. Listen to the commentators, firefighters and police themselves (people who handle these situations more than most of us) describe bomb blasts coming from the inside of the building and the top of the building.
Actually you will hear people saying how the building collapsing SOUNDS LIKE explosions. ANd indeed, a floor hitting another floor makes a big bang. A perimeter coloum collapsing makes a big bang. You are just taking selective quotes taken by dishonet or psychologically disturbed people to make it sound like something happened when it did't.
James Thomas
That's why I am an advocate for thorough investigations.
Well, you would look more credible if you restricted yourself to those who investigate the truely open issues rather than spreading erroneous nonsense about the nature of the collapse or physics of the event. Whereas the first issue arguably bears examination, the second just marks the card of those pushing it as a nut job. I remember from last time you pushed this one that you accepted a picture of glowing metal being taken from the ground with no provenance whatsoever as proof of molten metal at Ground Zero; the photo could be from anywhere or anywhen! In this thread you post a picture showing a 45 degree cut, but the photo has no provenance; was it taken during the clear-up phase when standing debris was demolished? If so, nothing to explain away. Your standards of evidence are too low man.
skyking
Yes, every conspiracist knows some form of expert... convenient. Funny, they estimate dozens of calls are made from the air every single day, despite the ban, and equally funny that the FAA have been discussing lifting the ban on cell-phone use in flight. We must tell those people making calls and those who wish to lift the ban cell phone use in flight is impossible.
If the fire was so incredibly hot that it burned the steel
It didn't burn steel; more misinformation.
sunny
That's the guy (Steven Jones) that JamesThomas has pushed in the past.
From the linked article;
Professor Jones said it was impossible for the twin towers to have collapsed in the way they did from the collision of two aeroplanes.
Funny, just like many of those disputing evolution are not biologists or scientists with relevent knowledge, many of those saying the towers could not have fallen from aircraft impact are not architects or structural engineers. Steven Jones is NOT a structural engineer, architect, or experienced with disatser analysis; he also believes all sorts of silly Mormon nonsesnse, a clear warning sign. Just as those wanting to believe in Creation or ID will accept hearing what they want to hear from non-credible sources, so too will those wishing to believe Conspiracist nonsense believe what they want to hear when it comes from non-credible sources.
He maintains jet fuel does not burn at temperatures high enough to melt steel beams
But no one says the towers collapsed because the beams melted; he's being deceptive by arguing against something that no credible source says happened.
and claims horizontal puffs of smoke seen during the collapse of the towers are indicative of controlled explosions used to bring down the towers.
Rather than dust being blown out from between pancaking floors; see, he's providing a complex explanation when the simple one fits what everyone say happen, a clear sign of dodgy thinking processes.