by SickofLies 90 Replies latest members private
Ok, just got to listen to Elder #2...and again Sick you handled yourself extremely well and that was really clever asking him what he would do if someone at the door asked him the same question about 607.
Although his response was pure crap, it just proves the point....In JW world if you're a possible convert you are deserving of time and patience and kindness in having all your questions answered. If you were raised in it and you have questions, you get a big "screw you".
OMG OMG OMG...I just listened to the 'Anointed Elder' one....OMG!!!!!
What a ROYAL JACKA$$....OMG...Can you 'Feel' the love from this guy...'If it's not good enough for you then GO where you want to go!'.....'And if the WT says thats the date then that's good enough for me!'
I couldn't even listen to all of it ......
SoL these are awesome and cringe-inducing at the same time. I could feel my brain vacillating between thinking and zombie when those certain key words and phrases were spoken by the elders. It is in some twisted way, a hypnotism we've undergone while a JW. I just hate it. LOL (control freak that I am :) )
I would love to give you my elders' numbers -- one is a real jack-ass. Very cold yet passionate, very 'by the book'. He's relatively new -- about 10 years an elder, yet seems to be at the same "maturity" level as when he was appointed. (Incidentally, he was a virgin til he was married at 33, NOT raised in the troof. Freak). The other elder has been an elder for over 20 years, PO for most ot it -- this is the creep who has sexual issues I think... or maybe just issues with me and my skirt slits. What the hell ever. Anyway -- he's the one who read 1 Cor 9:7 at me when I was leaning on another 'brother' during my separation/divorce yadda yadda ( But if they do not have self-control, let them marry, for it is better to marry than to be inflamed [with passion]) then looked at me and said "Rachel, I know you. You NEED to be married." Nasty nasty little man....
Anyway, if you want to tangle with a couple of conservative, Iowa elders, I'll PM you their phone numbers.
~merfi
Anyway, if you want to tangle with a couple of conservative, Iowa elders, I'll PM you their phone numbers.
Please do, I'll make it worth your while!
BTW, look foward to more installments tonight! I E-mailed Randy this morning with a new conversation with Bethel!
i've been lookin!! wheres the new installment?
Sorry, but the next installment wont be out until tomorrow due to technical difficulties. But fear not because the next installment will be worth the wait!
ty sol. i wont be around tommorow, if you put it in a new thread would you (or someone) pm me the link so i can find it?
Excellent SickOfLies! But I think you could get more mileage if you used a little more sweetness, at least for a while. You know, make it last a little longer and make them think a little harder.
Tor
I agree with toreador; I think this will be more effective, and will get more milage, if you are a wee bit less "in your face" and more "puh-LEASE, Brother Elder, PUH-LEASE!!!! I'm so confused (snif, snif) I just need help to understand (snif snif). I AM SO CONFUSED AND SCARED!!!!!! (BAWL)!!!!!!".
When they still treat you like crap, to the casual listener, it is no longer one elder's pathetic reaction to a "smart guy confrontation" (no offence!) but rather one pathetic elder's mal-treatment of a lost sheep.
Please don't misunderstanding my suggestions, I think you are doing GREAT. I'm just suggesting how, IMO, it could be even better.
Thanks again for doing this.
~Q
I listened to to tapings... you can really hold your own. I've never been a dub, and one thing I noticed is that for "shepherds of the flock" they're not very endearing. Rather strong-willed take-it-or-leave-it attitudes. I've known many ministers from several different religions and I must say, these two that you recorded where the 'coldest' that I've ever heard. yikes!
btw - The following post from Farkel is really good regarding reaching the year 587 B.C. by using the bible:
: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/74549/1.ashx
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