Mad and Sam,
Let us suppose you wanted to become a member of a group with inside information. How would you go about it? It seems to that this has been your approach so far.
1. Demand that they provide confidental information in a public forum.
2. Use obsenities when they explain why they can't.
3. Call them names if a reference they make is misdirected.
It seems to me that this is not an effective approach.
I think a better approach would be to establish credibility and demonstrate an ability to maintain confidences, and not really worry about whether you are invited in or not. I seems to me that those who do not push to get in, are the ones most likely to be accepted.
To personalize this, would you tell everything about yourself here? There is certain information I would only share after knowing someone a long time, and there is some information I would never post here. There is other information I would gladly give, but I don't because of my wife's request. If it was up to me, I would give my full name and address. I would only lose my sister as a result, and I could probably live with that. My wife would lose more family, and I certainly don't want to contribute to that.
Mad and Sam, are you willing to post your full name and address and also tell us of every sin and mistake you have made in your lives? If not, why not?
Now, when we go beyond ourselve to the discussion of others, it is even more necessary to consider the ramifications of our words. I think the posters who limit what they report have made their reasons very clear.
By the way, If you want to learn more of what Bethelites have to say, Randy has posts from many on them, and most provide an open e mail address.