Do Pedophiles deserve sympathy?

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  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    I am posting first the response(not by me) then the CNN article.

    purps

    #ChildAbuse - REACTION. Do pedophiles deserve sympathy? by James Cantor (CNN).

    The article seeks ambitiously to simplify a complex biologically fine distinction - some men (women are not studied for some reason unspecified) are born to be aroused by children. The author does not define the age of realization or the age of action. Pedophilia, the pre-defined brain preference, is different from Ch ild Abuse, the action that one allows himself to act upon.

    In essence, the article should have simply stated that a person acting on any impulse to abuse a child is committing a heinous, lifelong, life altering crime. This requires only a simple interview with anyone of thousands of abuse survivors.

    Instead, the author attempted to arouse interest in his poorly written piece by suggesting that abused, families of the abused, law, and all readers should have more sympathy for the poor pedophile who had no choice in life but to commit crimes.

    There is no sympathy. One day perhaps there is forgiveness. But that is between the abuser and the abused. Society and it's laws can not be altered to accept a biological flaw no more than it can be altered to accept that the FBI should not search for such a poor repeat criminal.

    Whether language eventually forces us all to eliminate the use of the word pedophile for the sake of legal clarity is yet to be told. But until science itself determines that all of the 6% of males and the 4% of females who commit these crimes are all short, left-handed, repeat criminals the use of this science as an answer in the court of law should be shelved. Immediately.

    Moreover, studies demonstrate that a very small number of survivors are inclined toward being abusers. Typically this is out of anger and unresolved life issues. Science needs to define whether these "victims" are also left-handed and short.

    It may prove very useful informative science also to some in the religious communities who desire to eliminate infirmities that are so socially costly afterward.

    I urge Mr. Cantor to be less sensational, more critical, and exercise better timing in how and when he disseminates a premature science in the future.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/21/opinion/cantor-pedophila-sandusky/index.html

    (CNN) -- One cannot choose to not be a pedophile, but one canchoose to not be a child molester.

    As stories of sexual abuse emerged from the Jerry Sandusky trial, and as the public looks on with horror, a central element to the case that has received scant attention is pedophilia itself.

    "Pedophilia" was long used as a synonym for "child molestation," and both were often seen as psychological failures of self-control. Child molesters were thought to be acting out their own histories of abuses, reacting to fears of adult relationships, or manifesting a symptom that might be resolved in psychotherapy, after which they would no longer be pedophilic.

    James Cantor James Cantor

    Recently, however, a number of studies have starting changing that view. It appears that one can be born with a brain predisposed to experience sexual arousal in response to children.

    Pedophilic men have significantly less white matter, which is the connective tissue that is responsible for communication between different regions in the brain. Pedophiles perform more poorly on various tests of brain function, tend to be shorter in height and are three times more likely to be left-handed or ambidextrous (characteristics that are observable before birth). Although nonbiological features may yet turn up to be relevant, it is difficult, if not impossible, to explain the research findings without there being a strong role of biology.

    No one has been able to find a way to change pedophiles into nonpedophiles. But that does not mean we cannot prevent child molestation. Sexual preference for children doesn't have to result in actual sexual behaviors toward children.

    Cases of child molestation that involve long strings of victims over the course of years illustrate what can happen when someone gives in to, or outright indulges, his sexual interests, regardless of its potential damage on others. It is those cases that dominate headlines and provoke revulsion toward pedophiles.

    But they are rare. An untold number of cases merit sympathy.

    The science suggests that they are people who, through no fault of their own, were born with a sex drive that they must continuously resist, without exception, throughout their entire lives. Little if any assistance is ever available for them.

    They are often unable to consult mental health professionals (because of mandatory reporting rules); their families will often disown rather than support them; and despite the openness of the Internet, there are few options for coming out and joining communities of other pedophiles for mutual support.

    Having encountered thousands of cases, it is my experience that the pedophiles who do go on to become actual child molesters do so when they feel the most desperate. Yet, much of what society does has been to increase rather than decrease their desperation.

    In the United States especially, the great majority of attention is on punitive measures, invoked after the fact. However, the more beneficial social policies may be those aimed at prevention.

    The best example of this effort is the Prevention Project Dunkelfeld in Germany, supported financially by private donation. It began with a media campaign aimed at people struggling to resist their sexual interests to children. By offering counseling and other services, it is expected that they can remain offense-free. Hundreds of people contacted the Dunkelfeld project after it was established. People from all over the world, including Austria, Switzerland and England, turned to the assistance.

    Another example is the Circles of Support and Accountability, which was developed in Canada. The programs are staffed by volunteers who have received training from professionals. They provide support to people who are under no mandate to attend but are nonetheless seeking help to not commit sexual offenses.

    It's too early to tell whether these efforts are effective over the long term, but preliminary reports are encouraging.

    Even though very few researchers study the causes of pedophilia, we hope that the scientific community will learn more as new tools and opportunities become available.

    If it is the brain's wiring that ultimately determines who will go on to develop pedophilia, can we detect it early enough to interrupt the process? Until we uncover more information, we will do more good by making it easier for pedophiles to come in for help rather than force them into solitary secrecy.

  • BlindersOff1
    BlindersOff1

    To be a member of the human race they have the responsibility to kill themselves rather than harm children.

  • DT
    DT

    I have great sympathy for someone born with destructive impulses who manages to keep it under control.

  • Nambo
    Nambo

    "Pedophilic men have significantly less white matter, which is the connective tissue that is responsible for communication between different regions in the brain."

    Thats a bit worrying. I just read an article that states Asparteme, the artificial sweetener, destroys the brians white matter, maybe thats why pedophillia seems to be so prevelant these days?

    Regarding the article, I feel great sympathy for children that are sexually abused, now if that abuse causes that child to develop its sexual needs based on its early learning and grows up to be a pedophile as a result, at what stage do we change our deep sympathy for the harmed child into hatred of it to the extent we feel it should kill itself?

    I would say the day its an adult that instead of refusing to succumb to its twisted desires, it carrys them out and perpetuates the cycle, nevertheless, I can still feel sorry in retrospect for that hurt child at the same time I condemn the adult.

  • talesin
    talesin

    The Canadian Government gave him $1 million to fund this study, but survivors of sexual abuse can't get their therapy paid for.

    Just sayin' .... grrrr

    I feel that if a person has these urges, and seeks help before they offend, they should receive it. Just like the rest of us, they have the option of masturbation, so there is NO sympathy for those who act on their urges in any way, shape or form.

    The suggestion made by this study, that pedos are of lower intelligence, does not correlate with reality. I tried to find out how many pedos brains he actually studied -- 100? 1000? and by what criteria were they chosen? Were they ones who were already caught? Would pedos of higher intelligence agree to being analyzed? They are known for their craftiness, and are highly skilled in manipulation.

    Like any study, results can be manipulated. I don't 'believe' in studies. Statistics are too easily skewed to get the desired results.

    tal

  • avishai
    avishai

    I have enormous sympathy for them. Due to the elders not getting him help, my brothers molester is incarcerated, and has to have lived a living hell for a life. I hate what they do, and don't want them in society, as I'm also a pragmatist, but that doesn't mean I can't feel bad for them. I feel bad for dogs who get rabies, cried at the end of Old Yeller, just like everyone else. It's kinda the same thing.

  • yknot
    yknot

    Oh Gawd....

    No, no, no, no.....

    I am not a fan of 'born this way' much to start with and I am certainly not feeling it on this subject....

    Humans are a species who are shaped by experiences.....

    We grow, we overcome, we accept and compensate.....or we make excuses and bullsh*t ourselves

    The biggest problem seems to be many of us just don't 'grow up', we fail to exercise self-control and take full responsibility and accountabilty for ourselves!

    The vampire syndrome of cycled abuse makes way more sense..... and 'studies' show that children (boys especially) who are believed when reporting the abuse and received help......were least likely to continue the cycle.

  • avishai
    avishai

    Like sociopaths, they can rarely be fixed. Being that broken would suck, whether there is a personal responsibility component or not.

  • Nambo
    Nambo

    Whilst I have never looked into pedophiles and thier brains Talesin. so you may well be right, but as I sufferer of mental and physical abuse and neglect myself, I have countless books on the subject and the resultant changes such abuse can make to the brains of the victims.

    Parts of childrens brains that suffered such emotional neglect are indeed underdeveloped when compared to the norm, doesnt mean they are less intelligent though.

    I myself have an IQ of 126, yet I score quite highly in tests for Aspergers, I dont have Aspergers, but the isolation and neglect I suffered has resulted in the same parts of my brain being similar too, and as wrongly wired as genuine Asperger children.

    Have a read of the following link which describes experiments on monkeys and the results of the Romainian orphanage experiment on the childrens brains.

    http://whyfiles.org/087mother/4.html

  • sooner7nc
    sooner7nc

    The person in the picture in this link is my cousin. He got caught abusing his stepchildren back in 98' and sent to prison. Before that he molested his sister's daughter and possibly her other two children, I'm not sure about them. I'm not really sure if he did it to anyone else except one person that I know of for absolutely. That person was me. It started about the time of my 6th or 7th birthday for a couple of years, I really have trouble piecing it all together. Sympathy? He deserves about 230 grains of it right between the eyes.

    http://docapp8.doc.state.ok.us/servlet/page?_pageid=229&_dad=portal30&_schema=PORTAL30&offender_id=4770&first_name=mark&last_name=mauldin#begin

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