STOP being naive - the time has come to use your PRIMAL SENSES

by Dogpatch 68 Replies latest jw friends

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    A lot of us spend a great deal of time on this board and elsewhere discussing the intricate doctrines of the
    Watch Tower as if they were legitimate arguments from the Bible.

    One of these is the issue of blood and blood transfusion.

    Another is "Who is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?"

    or "What is the definition of "generation" given in the Bible, so we can prove the Witnesses wrong?

    We discuss when and why people should be shunned or how they should be treated if they disagree with the Bible or the Watch Tower organization.

    or "When did the 2520 years of the 'Gentile Times' begin?"

    When was the destruction of Jerusalem, 587 or 607 BCE?

    All of these discussions are important for those questioning the Watch Tower machine.

    They can be quite valuable, and I am not dismissing the importance of them in certain contexts.

    But usually the most oft-missed elephant in the room is,

    WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING UNIQUE AND QUACKY DOCTRINES OF ONE OR TWO MEN WHO INVENTED THEM?

    Don't you realize that doctrines are invented ON PURPOSE by SINGLE INDIVIDUALS living in their monk-like seclusion at the Watch Tower headquarters for control reasons, and NOT INVENTED by ALL at WT headquarters, but one or two men? Then the others VOTE on how useful that doctrinal change will be to keep the organization afloat?

    Organizations will do anything to stay alive; individual issues like HONESTY and INTEGRITY are explained away using MORE DOCTRINE. People are expendable along the way. "Jehovah's Organization must be vindicated!"

    Baloney. Time to wake up and smell the coffee.

    Think.

    Where did the idea of Jesus having an invisible return come from? Charles Taze Russell. And no doubt he borrowed that from some dissenting early Adventist who tried to reason his way out of why Jesus DIDN'T RETURN in 1844 or 1874. So millions of people spend decades arguing over a stupid idea that no one in the history of Christianity had bothered themselves with for 2000 years. Why? Because Jesus made it pretty plain how he would come back.

    Millions argue whether the Bible condemns the transfusion of blood. Why? If it wasn't for two men living at Bethel, Fred Rusk and Gene Smalley, who currently invent all the little changes in blood fractions that can/cannot be used in a life-threatening situation, it would not be argued at all!

    But who ever would have bothered themselves with such a question had not the Watch Tower INVENTED this doctrine back around the 40s, only 30 years after Pastor Russell plainly agreed that even EATING BLOOD was not a law unto Christians, and the Apostle Paul pointed out that Christians are NO LONGER UNDER LAW, AND IF YOU INSIST ON OBEYING LAWS AS AN ISSUE OF SALVATION that you put Christ back on the cross and are forever damned, all the time thinking you are being pious? That's what the "doctors of the Law" did, the Pharisees. Jesus said they were going to hell in a handbasket, because they were blinded to the simple, primal issues.

    REMEMBER THIS AND DON'T EVER FORGET IT: The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania is NOT GOD. It is a worldly organization consisting of isolated, poorly-educated control-freaks that INVENT UNIQUE DOCTRINES to make themselves look different, and therefore more pious, than all others who call themselves Christians. Wow, that's really a new phenomena! NOT.

    If you don't get the point, look at another "Christian" cult that has inane doctrines like the Mormons or Christian Scientists; doctrines that are SO IMPORTANT to their members and ex-members that they will argue over them for decades, just like us?

    We laugh and dismiss their argumentation as a waste of time, because they can't see the forest for the trees.

    Well maybe neither can you.

    We can't see the old Wizard behind the curtain pulling levers and pushing buttons. We cower in fear. MAYBE THE ORGANIZATION IS RIGHT! OMG!

    So what exempted Toto from being afraid of the Wizard, unlike Dorothy, the Tin Man, the Scarecrow and the Cowardly Lion?

    Probably just his nose! He smelled A MAN behind the curtain.

    The rest were being duped by their own minds. It's just like doctrine.

    Doctrine has origins. Why do we not use our common senses to look behind the curtain first? Because we are not trained to do so.

    Because we don't understand how magicians perform their slight-of-hand and mind trickery.

    Even a DOG can be smart enough to see through the trickery of men.

    Learn to use your common senses before you go off arguing logic and the invisibles that you cannot taste, see or feel.

    Practically every Bethelite learns this lesson their first year or so; those in control are simply old men with a hunger for power and position. No Bethelite leaves fearing the Watch Tower organization unless they are duped by guilt and ignorance. They have seen who pulls the levers and pushes the buttons. There is nothing divine or miraculous to it.

    What To Do?

    Put your nose to the ground. Learn simple principles of common sense. Study magic, study mind control, study anthropology and human nature. Simple things that can be easily demonstrated.

    Then you won't waste 10 years of your life wondering when the Paradise will appear, and when will Jehovah Dog destroy all the wicked who won't obey Gene Smalley and Fred Rusk because they took a blood transfusion.

    With that in mind, we will go on Monday or Tuesday to discuss blood transfusions and why the Watch Tower has no argument to stand on, now that our noses are a little sharper. :-))

    Two or three experts on the subject will hopefully satisfy your mind, and the scarecrows who are left can quit fearing Gene Smalley and Fred Rusk, and get a life. Then you can go play in the grass and have fun with Toto.

    Randall Watters

    freeminds.org

    , exposed by Toto.

    But WHY was Toto the olny one not frightened or concerned by the smokescreen?

  • lifeisgood
    lifeisgood

    I haven't thought about anything the Watchower Bible and Tract Society teaches in a long time. Nor do I care. Are you running a cult?

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    Great read Randy

    I knew there was a reason why I liked that dog.

  • flipper
    flipper

    DOGPATCH- Exactly my sentiments precisely. There IS nothing to fear about the WT society if people free themselves of uneeded guilt and fear which were put inside them when they were JW's. On my threads I try to expose the idiocy of the alleged " time of the end " or " last days " as a crock of $hit. It's been 132 years since 1879 - I believe in the dictionary terms that's approximately 4 generations now and it always HAS been . People need to research things in the REAL world which really matter - as you said, mind control, psychology, anthropology - things which help in the REAL world, not the fictitious, imaginary WT society world which is making $$$$ off duping members. O.K. I'm done. End of my rant

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW
    REMEMBER THIS AND DON'T EVER FORGET IT: The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania is NOT GOD.....Randy/DogPatch

    Thats not what the WBT$ says!..

    If you want JW`s to believe,the WBT$ is Not Gods Organization..

    You`ll have to show them a "Quote" from a "Watchtower"..

    ..................... ...OUTLAW

  • mostlydead
    mostlydead

    You're right of course about the reality of the situation with the men behind the curtain. However, it's no mystery why some of us have to spend a long time deprogramming doctrinally. Many of us spent a long, long time convincing ourselves of the "truths" about what the Bible teaches; for some it's the only take they've had on the scriptures in their entire lives. To decide to give up one's internalized viewpoint of what the bible teaches is a separate thing from losing faith in an organization.

  • compound complex
    compound complex

    !

    Great points about fearless ToTo!

    Check for a pm.

    CC

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    REMEMBER THIS AND DON'T EVER FORGET IT : The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania is NOT GOD .

    Last night after church I was trying to explain to my husband how the GB has tried to set themselves on the same level as Jesus by telling the rank and file that Jesus isn't their mediator, the GB/FDS is. My husband thinks that is the craziest thing he's ever heard. Don't take much to make jws look crazy.

  • nicolaou
    nicolaou

    Very, very respectfully Randy (especially as Freeminds helped me a great deal over 10 years ago), can you not see that all argumentation based on supernatural teachings is "a waste of time"?

    I don't want to hijack or divert your topic so I'll bow out here, but perhaps I could just ask a simple question before I do.

    Why is the WT's teaching that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 B.C 'quacky' but the Bible's teaching that a dead man came back to life to be trusted?

    I appreciate all your hard work over the past 30 years Randy, and wish you well for the future.

    Nic'

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    Sorry for the loose text at the end, it was too late to edit it out. :-))

    Nicolaou,

    My fellow dog!

    All in due time, my little pretty! said the wicked witch.

    :-))

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