New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave

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  • Brokeback Watchtower
    Brokeback Watchtower

    Listening to his talk I see lots of compartmentalization going on in his reasoning which results in the pot calling the kettle black. The very same things he uses to call into question the other competing religions form of worship as unacceptable he completely ignores as happening with the Watchtower's corporate religion.

    Compartmentalization:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compartmentalization_%28psychology%29

    Compartmentalization is an unconscious psychological defense mechanism used to avoid cognitive dissonance, or the mental discomfort and anxiety caused by a person's having conflicting values, cognitions, emotions, beliefs, etc. within themselves.
    Compartmentalization allows these conflicting ideas to co-exist by inhibiting direct or explicit acknowledgement and interaction between separate compartmentalized self states.
    Vulnerability[edit]
    Compartmentalization may lead to hidden vulnerabilities in those who use it as a major defense mechanism.[6]
    Those suffering from borderline personality disorder will often divide people into all good versus all bad, to avoid the conflicts removing the compartments would inevitably bring, usingdenial or indifference to protect against any indications of contradictory evidence.[7]
    Using indifference towards a better viewpoint is a normal and common example of this. It can be caused by someone having used multiple compartment ideals and having been uncomfortable with modifying them, at risk of being found incorrect. This often causes double-standards, and bias.[citation neede

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  • richgirl
    richgirl
    The preaching work is still urgent because if membership numbers go into decline then the GB loses it's claim to fame! They cannot cite growth, and the "worldwide preaching", as evidence of God's favour and blessing upon them as his "channel".
  • Brokeback Watchtower
    Brokeback Watchtower

    I think this video about dream interpatation and the Jungian shadow offers some good insight about these GB's and their shadow repression which brings about some great hypocrisy in own badness which is hidden from their own consciousness.

    Interesting part starts at 22 minutes to 28 minutes of course I feel this whole series of videos gives some great insights. Von Franz studied under Carl Jung.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XdVdRHoC88

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    omg--this is huge!

    So now they can both explain the increase in partakers and distance themselves from their wackadoodle Miracle Wheat roots.

    Crazy like a fox.

    I guess I have my question answered now.

    why report more partakers?

  • prologos
    prologos

    In the past, wt was teaching there was always someone somewhere that carried the torch of "truth" , identifying with the dissenters, as the establishment was considered "wrong".--now, reading between the lines of this talk, they have started to side with the establishment, discouraging further studies to delve deeper into the "ultimate" truth.

    Yeah, David, it is not going to be found in the talking snake narrative and it's sequels.

  • oppostate
    oppostate

    What a bunch of bold faced $hitty smelling rubbish this guy is spewing! How many people did the Catholic inquisition maim, garroted, killed and burn at the stake?

    Luther may have read too much into scriptures like:

    Romans 8:29 For whom he foreknew, he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
    (WEB ASV NAS RSV NIV)

    Romans 11:2 God didn't reject his people, which he foreknew.
    (WEB KJV ASV DBY WBS NAS RSV NIV)

    But Luther had the cojones to expose the selling of papal indulgences, papers forgiving sins by paying the Catholic Church. And he publicly posted the list of 95 theses on unscriptural practices by the Papists and thus igniting the Protestant Reformation. And along comes this WT/JW Gobbering Body member talking $hit! Unbelievable, freaking unbelievable!

  • FayeDunaway
    FayeDunaway
    Luther and Calvin did read too much into those scriptures, and predestination is no longer doctrine for i think almost all Protestants.
  • Ding
    Ding
    What happened to the teaching that all Christians were of the anointed class until the 20th century?
  • Ding
    Ding

    The Reasoning book topic "Organization" argues that even in the days of Noah, Abraham, and Moses, "although Jehovah listened to the prayers of individual worshipers, he provided instruction for them through an organizational arrangement."

    It adds that after Pentecost in 33 C.E., "Clearly, Jehovah had brought into existence an organization on earth made up of true Christians."

    It goes on to say that the commands of Hebrews 10:24-25 and 1 Corinthians 14:33, 40 cannot be carried out if there was no organization with regular and orderly congregation meetings.

    Now from the death of John until Russell there were just scattered "wheatlike" individuals and no organization?

    And let's not forget that 21 years after 1874 Russell himself stated, "Beware of organization. It is wholly unnecessary." (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1895, p. 216).

    But now they want us to believe that our salvation depends on our joining Jehovah's organization and serving him as part of it. (KM, Nov. 1990, p. 1)

    "The truth" changes like a chameleon whenever the WT leadership wants it to. They make it up as they go along, citing isolated verses in the Bible to prove whatever they think it is to their advantage to say, even if it contradicts what they used to proclaim.

  • prologos
    prologos

    Oppostate: "And he publicly posted the list of 95 theses* on unscriptural practices by the Papists and thus igniting the Protestant Reformation. Martin would be right here, or be JWfacts if he lived now.

    That is why wt's Splane does not like dissenters like Luther now. The other reason for their new-found admiration for the RC establishment is of of course, that wt too has found their true calling, Real estate, and only a distant second, souls. that was the main driving force behind the RC missionary work, after all.

    *posted , nailed to a church door no less.

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