i was told today by a heavyweight elders wife, both of whom were at bethel for many years and are very well connected to the brooklyn brass, that all brooklyn bethel operations will be moved to wallkill and patterson.
in fact, there is a very exclusive walk-through next week for some of the top real estate investors/developers who will see all the properties, starting with the sands, and its lobby has now been remodeled to look just like a high-end hotel..................just fyi.................................oompa
Didn't Jesus tell a rich man to sell all he owned and give the money to the poor?
I don't think the society's motivation is to provide for those with little means.
The Organization is greedy, always asking for more.
Whitewashed Tombs,or as I like to think, crap in a gift box. It may look nice on the outside with pretty pictures and smiling faces but open it up and it stinks.
the watchtower "flag" by request!
request from researcher: atlantis, can you help me find this quote?
"at every convention resolutions were adopted by almost a unanimous vote approving the present management of the watch tower bible and tract society and its officers, pledging unreserved loyalty to the society.
The Watchtower party does support a program of religious cleansing.
All the "worldly" MUST be removed for the sake of religious purity.
I don't think they are much for camps and ovens, more like fireballs, pestilence and earthquakes.
Ah, happy days.
we all know that the witlesses claim to not be superstitious.
after all, they will walk under the ladders and cross the paths of black cats without flinching.
when i was in, i would often go out of my way to go under unoccupied ladders (i do not recommend walking under occupied ladders, because someone might drop something and hit you in the head).
Crikey, I'm on the internet at a site critical of the JW's, watching a KISS DVD on my TV.
Maybe I should just stick to reading a Stephen King story or...Harry Potter.
our great teacher, please tell me when the end is coming.
i have been waiting to tell everyone the great news, that i will live in paradise, and they will simply die, and that includes there kids.. i love all jws.
It's been called off due to lack of interest.
God's not interested and neither are 99.9% of people.
ok, gearing up for the memorial - our annual have to attend.
this is the first year that we will be showing up without having been to meetings in months.
on the last meeting i was cajoled into attending, i was bombarded with the above question.
My reply when they asked me how I was doing was... "I'm absolutly fantastic, in fact if I was any better I'd think I'd died and gone to heaven." That took the smile right off thir faces and gave me a big laugh.
just about every church i know of does something for the poor and needy around this time of year, who are not necessarily christians or members of their church.
from helping prisoners to delivering food hampers to visiting the lonely and elderly to helping poor people and children overseas, most churches i'm aware of do at least something to materially help the suffering in the community, home and abroad, regardless of their religious orientation.
many of these churches have programmes providing such assistance all year around, even many catholic churches.. but what do the jw's do to actually practically help the suffering and poor at this time of year, or ever?
Makes me think of the parable of the good samaratan...would the borg stop or walk on by? We all know the answer. So much for being Christ-like.
i rang london bethel and asked to speak to someone about the recent case in the british press about a jw child sex offender.
the lady at reception asked if i was a witness.
i replied that i can't see what that has got to do with it i just would like to ask some questions.
it can be said that he is appointed by holy spirit. Another fine example of the old "Watchtower Shuffle"...Is he appointed by the holy spirit YES or NO? Obviously the answer is NO. The phrase "it can be said" is meaningless drivel. If you believe the bible is inspired then anyone following any of it's teachings no matter what thier faith or not COULD BE SAID to be led by the holy spirit. I presented this scenario to an elder one time, he had no answer.
Also I know a "brother" who was going to be appointed as an elder, when he found out he let it be known that there was no way he would take the position. He was told that he was resisting the holy spirit.
What about Ewart Chitty? He had "special affection" for the boys long before the spirit elevated him to the governing body.
man escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.
michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.
among the individuals were others involved in the faith.
Chances of straightening this guy out...-0%
oops, it posted too soon!
the wts view is that we don't understand bible prophecy until after it is fulfilled.
thus their excuse for mis-understanding what was going to happen in 1876, 1914, 1918, 1925, 1975, etc.
I always thought this was a cop out croc of you know what...of course the WT can interpret, then later when things dont quite work out RE interpret THE TRUE MEANING...
i've been posting here for quite a long time, so long in fact that it just doesn't feel right that my wife isn't a part of it.
earlier today i created an account for her with the username heron, she'll know why.
i'm not sure if my wife will ever post here but i would feel much more comfortable knowing she is aware that i do.. this is the one post i am going to ask her to read.. so, i'd really appreciate it if you could say hello to my lovely wife.
Hi Heron and Welcome,
I was raised a witness, pioneered served at bethel, gave my all but came up empty. I discovered there IS a life outside the "truth" and for me the result was so much more happiness and enjoyment in life. When I tell witnesses this they can't understand it but ask anyone here and they'll agree. After 30+ years inside, it still feels great to be "free at last".
