Posts by jonahstourguide

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Special Pioneer Couple Living at a Kingdom Hall In Miami FL, get the dreaded Letter

by James Jack in

just got a phone call from an older sister saying that a couple that got re-assigned from bethel 4 years ago to live at their kh apartment as special pioneers, just received a letter saying "as of january 2016, your special pioneer assignment will be discontinued".. they live in a south miami kh(snapper creek congregation).. this couple had only served in bethel for 15 years before they were sent out into the special pioneer work.

they are now in their mid 50's and the sister said that they have to find part time jobs to support themselves.. the older sister (does not have a pc or internet), says that the couple are just devastated!

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jonahstourguide

Here in Oztralia, the spin doctors are saying that the cutoff point was that

special pioneers with less than 20 years service were 'retrenched'. And,

"there isn't really a need for special pioneers here in Oz. "So please

don't feel that you have been singled out or aren't appreciated".

The kh units they lived in will be given to 'retired' circuit overseers.

And, as I see some of them, (melbourne cbd ) I note they are confused and gutted.

jtg

P.S. And,,,,, any a holiday entitlements (one month per year)

are null and void.

"Go in peace and be well fed my 'seeking kingdom interests first'

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No carts in Australia?

by Festus in

a friend of mine visited australia and to his surprise there were no jw carts on streets.. wonder if it was just a coincidence or is it due to media attention that arc has created?.

jonahstourguide

Carts are alive and kicking and in fact, Congs are awaiting shipments to

double or triple the carts currently in use..people are catching on to the

easiest way to count time. Sit on a bench sipping coffee. I saw 3 guys doin this

just yesterday.

jtg

(edit)ps Your friend must have been in lesser cart bombed areas.

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Any funny stories of when a"brother" giving a talk, said something "funny" or "questionable", and didn't even realize it?

by Dunedain in

there were always all types of speakers in the org.

myself, growing up a "witness", must have heard all types of talks, and given by all manner of speakers, especially on sundays, when almost every week we would get a "visiting" brother giving the public talk.. sometimes, you would have a "great" speaker, all fluent and animated.

other times we would get a comical speaker, one who would maybe purposelly get a few laughs outta the audience.

jonahstourguide

Ha Ha

Same sh#t different As% Hole

JTG

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Bethel Layoffs In Australia Confirmed

by jonahstourguide in

yes, last week the number of bethel layoffs was confirmed from 90 to 125. .

and those going in thinking they may be there for some time have been told.

that they may be there for two months rather than 3 years depending on .

jonahstourguide

Hi All,

Yes, last week the number of Bethel Layoffs was confirmed from 90 to 125.

And those going in thinking they may be there for some time have been told

that they may be there for two months rather than 3 years depending on

operational requirements.

Regards

jtg

P.S. By the way as we understand it there were app. 350 folk there prior to the

layoffs.

Have a good evening Aussies

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Let's Consolidate World Branch Layoff Threads - Oct 2015

by TheListener in

jw
friends

there has been many threads from various posters around the world about recent bethel layoffs.. so far i remember threads about:.

south africa.

united states.

jonahstourguide

approximately 90 of the Australian Bethelites are being retrenched at this stage. and special pioneers young and not so young have got their walking ticket.

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Brooklyn Layoffs and Halt to Kingdom Hall construction projects

by James Jack in

a good source just just told me that at morning worship today that the governing body announced that a total of 1600 bethelites will be let get go and not transferred to warwich when the last property is sold in brooklyn and all kingdom hall building projects are on hold for at least a year so that all the focus will be on the preaching work.

jonahstourguide

Similar situation here in Australia. Although no mention

of KHall construction on hold yet

jtg

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Where you are in your life now.....What would you have preferred .... To be left in ignorance ? ...Or to know the truth about the truth

by smiddy in

jw
friends

i think possibly their are a few valid reasons for either options to this question ,depending on a number of factors .. such as how old you might be, how long you have devoted your life to the "truth" as you believed it .

?....how it may affect your mental/physical health and well being.?.

how it will affect your financial position in your life ,?

jonahstourguide

I love the question Smiddy.

And i'm in Oz.

And i cannot but attempt to address the 'dot points' Old enough to have been plucked out of education due to 1975. 23 years born in at that time and lasted till 34 yrs. At the risk of a psychological melt down i walked,,,,,, into the arms of the homosexual community that accepted me as a human being,,, that was an enlightenment. i am a hetro male of the species by the way. Given that i went on to enjoy life after the wt was brilliant. I moulded a life for me, i wallowed in the freedom that really exists apart from wt stalag 13. Ok, life as a single person can be lonely irrespective of any ecclesiastical views. but i moved forward and out of the restrictive mind controlling gb inspired fears, and i realised it was a dream never to come true. Now however (4 years ago) I've tried to have another shot at "making the truth my own" Ha Ha famous last words. Never good to be ignorant. I did the research after i was reinstated to get the bottom line. thats when the reality started to become evident. Goodness me !!!!! as it happens I dont have family relationships to deal with and I genuinely empathise with those that do. I have, however made some genuine friends during my 'return' and i worry for them given that I now know the 'bottom line' So for now i'm gonna play it cool and go with the flow and slowly help my friends to see the tatt. Tell Ya what Smiddy as you know ... stickin youre head in the sand does not work.

jtg

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Speculation: Female Ministerial Servants coming soon

by Londo111 in

ive no source for this, just personal speculation.. * there is a good case to be made that there were female deacons (ministerial servants) in the bible.. * there is a lack of qualified brothers for basic assignments such as microphones, accounts, literature.

in some cases, elders have had to do double duty because of a lack of ministerial servants or qualified brothers.. * women outnumber men in the organization.. * there is supposedly a surprising change coming "down the pipe".. perhaps the only difference between male and female ministerial servants is that women will still not be allowed to teach..

jonahstourguide

Yep wouldn't work.

How dey gonna keep da secret boys club in their own

lunchbox intact?

jtg

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Speculation: Female Ministerial Servants coming soon

by Londo111 in

ive no source for this, just personal speculation.. * there is a good case to be made that there were female deacons (ministerial servants) in the bible.. * there is a lack of qualified brothers for basic assignments such as microphones, accounts, literature.

in some cases, elders have had to do double duty because of a lack of ministerial servants or qualified brothers.. * women outnumber men in the organization.. * there is supposedly a surprising change coming "down the pipe".. perhaps the only difference between male and female ministerial servants is that women will still not be allowed to teach..

jonahstourguide

So then,

Even if they cannot be "appointed" as a 'helper' certain tasks could be performed.

Could they for example be the cobe's helper or the service overseer helpers?

the eldub has say 3 'positions' but the female 'helpers' do the hard work???

Sound department 'helpers'? Heaven knows many do the stuff for older

computer illiterate and organisationally bereft males.

Dunno, juz wondering.

jtg (lookin for loopholes)

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Speculation: Female Ministerial Servants coming soon

by Londo111 in

ive no source for this, just personal speculation.. * there is a good case to be made that there were female deacons (ministerial servants) in the bible.. * there is a lack of qualified brothers for basic assignments such as microphones, accounts, literature.

in some cases, elders have had to do double duty because of a lack of ministerial servants or qualified brothers.. * women outnumber men in the organization.. * there is supposedly a surprising change coming "down the pipe".. perhaps the only difference between male and female ministerial servants is that women will still not be allowed to teach..

jonahstourguide

@ dozy,

Hey the use of the word HELPER jumps outta da page at me.

Are't they using the term for speakers at conventions?

Like "governing body helper"

I'm now wondering...... co's wives? eldubs wives? special female bethelites?

Females from the translation dept?? Female pioneers??

As for me I'm all for it,,,,da gender bias unsettles my bowels and

overworks my anal orifice,,ha ha..

jtg