Posts by fastJehu

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What words has the WT redefined?

by Splash in

these days, virtually every public talk speaker thinks it's interesting and intellectual to include a dictionary definition of some word.

often the word is in common use and needs no explanation, such as 'exercise', or 'knowledge', or whatever.. now contrast that to all of the words that the wt has it's own meaning for, and referencing a dictionary for the common understanding of it would be viewed unfavourably.. words like 'generation' or 'men' (as in jesus is mediator between god and 'men' - 1tim 2:5-6).. what words have the wt redefined that you know about?

- i'd like to compile a list if possible.. splash.

fastJehu

"loving provision" = hard work without gratitude

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This week's WT study...made me so sick.....

by stuckinarut2 in

this week's study april 15th 2014 was called "do you see the one who is invisible?".

it was perhaps one of the most depressing, controlling, fear-mongering, stress inducing, doctrinally incorrect, hate-inspiring, judgemental, cult-like, irrational, hyped-up, critical, crazy, stretched out, fanciful, illogical, burdensome, inflated, coersive, manipulative, and brain-snappingly weird stuff i have read for some time.... (but i'm sure it was just a rehash and repeat of previous stuff...for the new masses....).

i had to keep up a sane appearance while in the hall, and even answer some garbage while this was being 'studied'... my cognitive disonance must be so strong now, because i found this one of the hardest ones to endure....now that i am home, i have poured a stiff drink and am trying to clear my head...... one paragraph was classic:.

fastJehu

@ Billy the Ex-Bethelite

nice catch - but the sheep will say: It shows, how much the GB believes, that god will protect his people. ;-)

18 We need not waver in fear. Why not? Because Jehovah has foretold that attack on God’s people. He has also foretold the outcome. “‘On that day, the day when Gog invades the land of Israel,’ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘my great rage will flare up. In my zeal, in the fire of my fury, I will speak.’” ( Ezek. 38:18-23 ) God will then destroy all those who want to harm Jehovah’s people. Your faith in the outcome of “the great and awe-inspiring day of Jehovah” will help you to “see the salvation of Jehovah” and to maintain your integrity.— Joel 2:31, 32 . WT 2014-04-15 page 12 par. 18

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Donation of blood fractions

by why144000 in

jw
friends

this may be the wrong area for this but here goes.. if you went to a bank and told them " i don't have an account with you, i never will have an account with you and i will tell people you are a terrible bank" then ask not for a loan from them, but a gift of a lot of money, how do you think they would respond?.

yet, witnesses now have the the ability to take blood fractions from the blood bank without ever contributing to the blood bank.

there is a process that the blood bank takes just the plasma from a donor to be used for fractions only.

fastJehu

@ mmxiv "By donating blood an apostate would save a JW's life but JW's refuse to save an apostate's life. So who's the good Samaritan?"

Easy - and perfect reasoning. I never saw this point. thx.

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"The Bible - A Remarkable Story of Survival"

by Doug Mason in

the watchtower magazine of november 1, 2009 includes the article: the bible - a remarkable story of survival.

for support, the article quotes three sources.. does the watchtower provide its readers with balanced information?

does the watchtower provide a full and frank account of each source that it holds up as evidence?.

fastJehu

@ Doug Mason

thanks for your really deep study of this WT.

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2014-06-01 Coordinator of the body of elders ---NEWS BOE---

by WatchTower87 in

instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.

no virus ;-).

pdf : http://adf.ly/pkuhp.

fastJehu

@ WatchTower87

Thanks for uploading this letter for us.

Your letter ist from the rome branch, so your letter is different and posted here for the first time.

Please continue with your good work.

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What has the WTS EVER "predicted" that has actually come true?

by integ in

you'd think they could point to something right?

obviously we're the one true religion".. i can't fathom how anyone of any intelligence would be willing to join up with this org after doing even rudimentary research.. for years they have taught that it's wrong to seek advanced education or to plan for a "worldly" future by trusting in this system of things and then this past sunday the watchtower article rips on people for not planning for the future in regard to their elderly relatives.

maybe if they hadn't been teaching for 100 yr's that the end was "just around the corner" and telling us we'd better believe that fact...or else, we would have planned better for a future that you said without reservation would not even occur.. what mind blowing prediction can they point to that would convince someone "oh yeah..these guys have it right"...?.

fastJehu

"The value of such a discussion is best appreciated when we acknowledge that trials that come with age cannot be avoided. Still, we can make certain preparations and advance decisions. "

w14 3/15 pp. 25-29 (http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2014207)

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The real reason for the new donation arrangement?

by redvip2000 in

yesterday i was having a beer with a friend of mine who happens to be an accountant, and we began discussing this ridiculous arrangement that the watchtower has put in place.

after giving him the backstory of how the watchtower has been lending money to the local congregations and charging interest, he simply could not believe they had been doing that.. he then offered an explanation which really made sense to me.

he said that in reality what the watchtower society has been doing is actually not legal in light of their tax-exempt status.

fastJehu

@ venting Quote: " I don't agree with this new arangement. But I don't see the org. getting rich. I don't see the gov B driving Bentleys and building mansions. Doesn't the money get used to build halls and help the brothers? Don't get me wrong, I'm here because I'm not happy with things. venting."

If it is - like you say - and the GB has nothinh to hide, why they show us not a monthly or yearly report like the KH is doing?

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Help with some questions on "new light"

by adjusted knowledge in

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friends

for a future conversation i will have with my mother i need some questions answered.

otherwise i will have to search and read through jw literature and i rather not :0. what was the teaching of 1919 during 1980's and 1990's (this is when i was active and my mother became a witness)?.

what is the current teaching of 1919?.

fastJehu

The changes from 1994 --> today:

1994, tribulation and celestial phenomena (Mt 24:29-31; Mr 13:24-27; Lu 21:25-28): w94 2/15 16-21

1995, “sheep” and “goats” (Mt 25): w13 7/15 6; w06 2/15 30; w97 7/1 30-31; w95 10/15 18-28
“this generation” (Mt 24:34; Mr 13:30; Lu 21:32): w97 6/1 28; w95 11/1 10-21, 30-31

1996, acceptability of customary (tribal) marriage: g96 12/8 23
civilian service in lieu of military service: yb97 16; w96 5/1 19-20
“flesh” saved through “great tribulation” (Mt 24:22): w96 8/15 15-20
great tribulation “cut short” (Mt 24:22): w96 8/15 17-18

1997, transfiguration vision (Mt 17; Mr 9; Lu 9): w97 5/15 9-14

1998, duration of new covenant (Heb 13:20): w98 2/1 22-23
Ezekiel’s vision of restored temple and land (Eze 40-48): w06 2/15 30; w00 3/15 13-14; w99 1/15 9; w99 3/1 8-23
nations blessed through Abraham’s seed (Ge 22:18): w98 2/1 14-15

1999, ‘disgusting thing standing in a holy place’ (Mt 24:15; Mr 13:14): w06 2/15 30; w99 5/1 15-20

2000, blood fractions: w00 6/15 29-31
use of one’s own blood: w00 10/15 30-31; w00 12/15 30

2001, “divorce certificate” for Judah (Isa 50:1): ip-2 152-153
‘doves to birdhouse holes’ (Isa 60:8, 9): w02 7/1 12-13; ip-2 308-309
worshipping Jehovah “with spirit” (Joh 4:24): w06 2/15 30; w02 7/15 15; w01 9/15 28

2002, courtyard in which “great crowd” serve (Re 7:15): w02 5/1 30-31

2003, meaning of baptism of Jewish believers at Pentecost 33 C.E.: w03 5/15 30-31
why some early Christians observed features of the Law: w03 3/15 23-25

2007, start of heavenly resurrection: w07 1/1 27-30
when calling to heavenly hope ceases: w07 5/1 30-31; w07 8/15 19

2008, illustration of dragnet (Mt 13): w08 7/15 20-21
illustration of leaven hidden in flour (Mt 13; Lu 13): w08 7/15 19-21
illustration of man casting seed (Mr 4:26-29): w08 7/15 14-16
illustration of mustard grain (Mt 13; Mr 4; Lu 13): w08 7/15 17-19, 21
Mary’s pain during Jesus’ birth: w08 10/1 23
“this generation” (Mt 24:34; Mr 13:30; Lu 21:32): w10 4/15 10-11; w08 2/15 23-24; w08 4/15 29

2009, “all creation that is under heaven” (Col 1:23): bt 217
resurrection hope for baby dying in womb: w09 4/15 12-13

2010, illustration of wheat and weeds (sowing of seed) (Mt 13:24, 38): w10 3/15 20
illustration of wheat and weeds (wheat brought into storehouse) (Mt 13:30): w10 3/15 22

2011, entering Jehovah’s rest (Heb 4): w11 7/15 24-28
Jesus “a corresponding ransom” (1Ti 2:6): w11 6/15 13; w11 8/15 32
olive tree (Ro 11): w11 5/15 23-25
Peter in Rome: w11 8/1 25

2012, “all these kingdoms” (Da 2:44): w12 6/15 17
feet of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream image (Da 2): w12 6/15 15-16, 19
Mordecai and Esther “divide spoil” in fulfillment of Genesis 49:27: ia 142; w12 1/1 29
ruin caused by “king fierce in countenance” (Da 8:23, 24): w12 6/15 16
toes of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream image (Da 2): w12 6/15 16
when seventh world power emerged: w12 6/15 15, 19

2013, anointed not to survive Armageddon on earth: w13 7/15 5
‘Assyrian comes into our land’ (Mic 5:5): w13 11/15 20
chosen ones gathered (Mt 24:31; Mr 13:27): w13 7/15 5
“evil slave” (Mt 24:48-51): w13 7/15 24
“faithful and discreet slave” (Mt 24:45-47): w13 7/15 8, 20-25
great tribulation: w13 7/15 3-8
illustration of wheat and weeds (Mt 13): w13 7/15 13-14
Jesus comes, arrives (Mt 24, 25): w13 7/15 7-8, 24
Jesus inspects spiritual temple 1914-1919 (Mal 3:1-4): w13 7/15 11-12

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Advice not worth 2 farts

by bobld in

jw
friends

what i am talking about is the march 15,2014 wt articles on aged and care for the elderly.i mean no disrepect to farts.actually farts are beneficial however,the resultant gawful smell stinks to high heaven.. ask these aged and elderly ones today what advice did they get in the sixies.did they receive any financial planning,pre-retirement advice,plan for medical costs,tax accountancy,debt recovery banking,etc..or you will never get old,no need for education,don't have childern the end is near.now they say the childern(which they weren't to have) have the responsilibity to take care of the elderly.. their advice is more like the resultant of a fart..

fastJehu

I am also a victim of the awake 69 and this wt 71 lies:

*** w71 9/15 p. 563 par. 17 Set Apart from the World ***
17 All worldly careers are soon to come to an end. So, why should today’s youth get interested in ‘higher education’ for a future that will never eventuate? The colleges are falling into chaos, anyway. The essentials of education for a useful life can be obtained by studying well at high school, and beyond that there is also the ‘highest education’ that Jehovah provides through his organization, preparing for a satisfying career of full-time service that goes on forever. (Ps. 71:5, 17; 61:8) Let young people, and older people, too, avoid reading matter, TV and movies that highlight worldliness. Rather than see how close one can keep to the world’s course and yet stay in the truth, how much wiser to see how far away one can get from the interests and ways of the world!—2 Cor. 6:17; Rom. 12:2.

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Did the WT ever unofficially ban Kal-El?

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

a few years ago avatar was 'demonized' by the wt.

in reality their argument had an extreme ignorance of hinduism and a poor knowledge of modern langauge (avatar means something else nowadays.... ).

but anyway when i was growing up my parents recorded the 4 supermen movies on to video tape as they were played on tv.

fastJehu

JW.ORG says: http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/do-jehovahs-witnesses-ban-certain-entertainment/

Last sentence: " Outside the family, however, no one is authorized to ban specific films, songs, or artists as being unacceptable for members of the congregation."

And JW.ORG has the "truth". If we would ask the JW press officer - he would say: "in JW land there are no unofficially rules about films".