i'm new to the forum.
i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.
i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.
There is overwhelming evidence now that humans were existing on the planet for around 100000 years, atleast. This is Way far back than the Adam and Eve time line.
Adam and Eve is a fairy tale story and its no wonder than this mythical Jesus beleived it. The biblical writers created a Myth called Jesus and made that myth beleive the adam eve story. That what I beleive what happened.
the watchtower—study edition | june 2020. .
study article 26.
6 who can share in the search for inactive ones?
When I got baptized, Jehovah never sounded from heaven (This is my son ...blah... blah..) as he did for Jesus
When I was a JW for 11 years, Jah never once commended me for all my sincere Kingdom activities
When I got doubts about the Org, Jehovah never cautioned me not to look at apostate sites.
When I quit WT, Jah never felt sad or said “Don’t leave my Org son"
After quitting - almost for 11 years - Jah never called me back.
Then why the Heck do they say "Return to Jehovah"
I would ask the above, if any JW tries to pull me into the cult again
at what time would you say that the watch tower schema lost the spirit?.
like the ancient nation of israel which struggled maintaining divine blessing due to a long series of grave errors that eventually culminated in definitive loss... how and when did watch tower lose the spirit?.
can we pinpoint a time or event?.
When did Watchtower had the Spirit. And please define "Spirit"
it is a challenge next sunday for them .
due to starting the convention programme the wt study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... i doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .we on the look out for the king of the north to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week).
this article makes a grand claim in par 2.
That “disgusting thing” is the United Nations.
And Jehovah went and made an alliance with this disgusting thing ?
https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php
system of things comes to mind.
what does that mean to anyone not a jw?.
how long have you been in the truth?
Publisher - A perfect misnomer
does someone have a list of the scriptures the jw's use to justify shunning and disfellowshipping?
i know there are only a few..
Add "Who Questions the Watchtower" to that.
there have been a number of threads touching on this before, leolaia for one, back in the day when we had many an erudite poster, showed the pagan origins of many things, including the passover , and by extension, the jw " memorial".. what prompted my thought on this was a conversation i had the other day with a young lady, never a jw, who said the jw stance on birthday celebrations, was groundless and cruel.. i thought later that jw's do a " pick and mix " as usual, as they do with so many other things, on what they condemn as "pagan" and what they accept and practice.. the institution of marriage itself is pagan, marriages were performed long before the bible was written, and long before the nation of israel was formed.
yet jw's perform marriages, use the veil, and the ring, all pagan.
the names of the days of the week, the months of the year, all pagan.. i guess you guys can think of many more things ?
All days of the week and months are pagan, named after ancient Gods.
Celebrating
wedding anniversaries are pagan. Baby shower celebration is pagan. Many
restaurants offer a prayer before starting their business every day. Another
Pagan thing. And JWs dont have a problem supporting these
Jws should work on their so called "Worldy holidays" because they are Pagan. Have you ever seen a JW go to his work on a pagan Holiday ?
Allowing a JW to die by refusing blood is a good thing
But making a person feel good on his birthday is evil and Pagan. WHAT A CULT
we used to use this scripture to show that there was going to be a future resurrection.
but recently i got to thinking about it.
if the apostle paul was right in saying that the righteous on death would be changed in the twinkling of an eye from earthly life to heavenly glory why would there be a future resurrection needed for the righteous?
@ JoenB75
EverApostate, Lazarus was not transformed into immortality in John 11 ☺️
Is there sometihing like mortal resurrection and immortal resurrection in the Bible. Anxious to know that
we used to use this scripture to show that there was going to be a future resurrection.
but recently i got to thinking about it.
if the apostle paul was right in saying that the righteous on death would be changed in the twinkling of an eye from earthly life to heavenly glory why would there be a future resurrection needed for the righteous?
It’s absurd to the core, to believe in resurrection. Just take one Example:
When Lazarus was resurrected, why did he die again? He should be alive now. Because the Bible says, the wages of sin is death and whoever dies is cleared of their sins.
If Lazarus is still around, that would be an irrefutable proof that the Bible is true.
The Biblical beleif of resurreuction is just as good as the Egyptian belief of an afterlife.
In ancient tiimes, the Egyptians spent a lot of time, Energy and money to build pyramid tombs to support afterlife
JWs and christians do the same now
romans 13 ,1-7 contrast with 2 cor.4 : 3-6 ,on the one hand the faithful are to be obedient to the superior authorities ,worldly government ,law enforcement ,etc, as its gods arrangement and to go against it is to go against god ?.
then 2 cor .4 : 3-6 states that the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one satan the devil and if you are obedient to that you are supporting satan`s system of things and going against gods arrangement ?.
what sort of mental gymnastics do you need to acquire to accept both of these scriptures and keep your sanity ?.
One cannot be a christian without practicing Mental Gymnastics
