Jesus = Michael
Jesus Not equal to Michael
Why does it matter. Its all middle east Imagination
EverApostate
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Is Jesus and Michael the Archangel the same person?
by JW Answers inthe jehovah's witnesses believe that jesus christ and michael the archangel are the same person, and blatently ignore numerous verses and passages within scripture which explain that both jesus and michael are two separate persons.this video study (linked below) goes into the intricacies of hebrews chapters 1+2 explaining how the lord jesus and michael are different persons, and looks at the qualities, authority and power at which the lord jesus holds and how it is separate from angels including michael the archangel..
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1 Timothy 2:11-15...Woman and silence in the congreagation
by RULES & REGULATIONS in1 timothy 2:11-15let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness.
i do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence.
for adam was formed first, then eve.
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EverApostate
Another similar Bible Gem
1 Corinthians 14:34 Women are to be silent in the churches. They are not permitted to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 35If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is dishonorable for a woman to speak in the church
It is dishonorable for a woman to speak in the congregation. (dishonorable – How misogynistic)
And Watchtower bypasses this by allowing women to act in a conversation, indirectly speaking as well as preach in the congregation. This is like paying a traffic violation fine first and then violating the traffic rules. Taking advantage of loop holes.
Despite these misogynistic and male chauvinistic verses, woman are the larger army in any Christendom sect.
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Why go back to the Old Testament?
by Lost in the fog inwhy do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?
such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.
surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.
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EverApostate
The Old Testament, on multiple occasions, specifies that gods law mentioned there is to time indefinite.
How can Jesus void or change it? Isn't he the greatest apostate and rebel then?
Someone please clarify.
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Contradictions!
by Freedom rocks inquite regularly at meetings jws mocked worldly people and apostates(anyone who had left the "truth") for saying the bible contradicts itself when it is in complete harmony from beginning to end apparently.
can anyone point out some of the contradictions they know of?
they used to laugh at the fact people on the doors would say the bible contradicts itself and when they asked the householder to show them where, they couldn't..
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EverApostate
Proverbs 26:
4. Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be like him.
5. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he become wise in his own eyes
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Apostate - what does the word mean to you?
by Tallon inover a period of time i got to thinking - what does the word 'apostate' mean to me.
having given it some thought, this is my view;.
the org has given the word its own definition and basically use it to demonise people and consider them pariahs.. however, the jw meaning of 'apostate' is a mere word and only has power if recognised as such.
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Don't even try it!
by JTrottigy inthere are many here who think they can infiltrate my web-site.
be warned that we administrators of jwtalk call the listed congregation on your application for membership in our site to verify if they know you!.
some of you have slipped through the cracks and got into our site, but rest assured, we will find you out and ban you!.
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EverApostate
I was under the Impression that jw.org and all related Holy sites are guarded by Angels.
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Apostate - what does the word mean to you?
by Tallon inover a period of time i got to thinking - what does the word 'apostate' mean to me.
having given it some thought, this is my view;.
the org has given the word its own definition and basically use it to demonise people and consider them pariahs.. however, the jw meaning of 'apostate' is a mere word and only has power if recognised as such.
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EverApostate
Real Meaning of Apostate: One who has abandoned his religion
WT meaning of a JW Apostate: The most evil person on earth. Equivalent to Satan
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Is the Earth really that great?
by DATA-DOG ini enjoy watching nature documentaries; david attenborough being my favorite host and narrator.
that being said, i’ve come to the conclusion that contrary to xianity’s teaching, the earth is not “perfectly placed/designed for life.” .
when you actually observe the world at large, without blinders, it’s a wonder that life even exists.
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EverApostate
Wild plants grow on abandoned buildings.
The building wasnt designed for plants, but plants grow there due to favourable conditions.
Same case for earth. Earth wasnt designed or formed for life. But life arose due to favourable conditions on earth.
Of course earth has some fatally dangerous conditions too.
Its up to the species to handle or adapt the dangerous conditions and survive
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The great 1914 turn around
by Sour Grapes ini must say there is no other religion in modern times that has lied more to their cult followers than the watchtower company and no more brain dead, gullible cult members than the jdubs.. just three examples.
when russel was in charge 1914 was prophesied to be the end of the system of things with armageddon and the earthly paradise.
that didn't happen and poof now 1914 was not the end, oh no, it was the beginning of the end.. the second example, the generation that saw 1914 would not pass away before the end came, which meant in all jdubs minds that paradise had to be here in the late 1990's.
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EverApostate
On my way out, I had pretty much known everything about the Org and had discussed about the following with my JW associates. Result. Still, they are collectively (Around 10 Bros and sis) shunning me until now - for 8 years. Most of them are Zealous JW still(Or at least pretending to be) .
1914 prediction failure
King of the North and South Prediction absurdities
Russel’s Pyramidology
Beth Sarim Absurdity.
1925 and 1975 prediction failure
Ban of vaccinations and Organ transplants and revoking it later
Blood ban and even more ridiculous Blood fraction Policies
UNO connection and their ridiculous Explanation
Shunning policies
Generation teaching flip flop
The absurdity of reporting “Field Service”
As Sir82 said, it’s the Sunk cost fallacy for some and fear of losing Eternal Life for some
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Water on Mars (Possibly life)
by pleaseresearch inthis has been an interesting story in the news recently.. just thinking, if in a few years time they drill down and discover water on mars and also some form of life.
does that for you destroy the bible in anyway?.
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EverApostate
In 1954, Watchtower challenged the then space missions saying that man cannot go beyond the atmosphere of the earth. That was proven false within a few years
Nowadays Watchtower is very cautious not to refute any scientific claims or theories.
They even Admit Neanderthals Existed.
So possibly now they would twist things like “We do not know Jehovah’s Plan in entirety. Possibly he may have created mankind somewhere in this vast Universe too” ….. Like that.
To answer the title of this topic. I am a born again atheist now and hence life elsewhere wouldn’t surprise me.