Posts by EverApostate

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The utter absurdity of the "universal sovereignty issue", chapter 4,786

by sir82 in

so on the jw broadcast channel, there is a new 4 minute video entitled "why does god permit suffering".

i won't give them free advertising by linking to it, but you'll find it under the "latest videos" section.. it looks like it will be something that will eventually be used in field serve-us as a video to show householders.. anyway, it gives the illustration of the teacher and a "rebellious student" who says he has a "better way to solve the problem".

the infinitely wise teacher allows him to try, he fails, and the teacher is "vindicated".. other posts on this site demonstrate how inane the illustration really is - it breaks down nearly effortlessly.. anyway, the video goes on to explain that god allowed "rebellious humans" to continue on because (more or less direct quote) "millions of angels were observing.

EverApostate

Angels are far more superior and powerful than humans and do not endure suffering, like humans. And they have every chance to view this Almighty Jah all the time. They why would they doubt his immense power and Sovereignty. What is the need to prove to them at the Expense of mankind’s Suffering ?

This guy Jah is more interested in proving his righteousness to the angels rather than fix mankind’s suffering. What a sickening Egotistical maniac.

Believing this whole story of Universal Sovereignty is utter Foolishness, and I’m ashamed to have believed this nonsense.

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The utter absurdity of the "universal sovereignty issue", chapter 4,786

by sir82 in

so on the jw broadcast channel, there is a new 4 minute video entitled "why does god permit suffering".

i won't give them free advertising by linking to it, but you'll find it under the "latest videos" section.. it looks like it will be something that will eventually be used in field serve-us as a video to show householders.. anyway, it gives the illustration of the teacher and a "rebellious student" who says he has a "better way to solve the problem".

the infinitely wise teacher allows him to try, he fails, and the teacher is "vindicated".. other posts on this site demonstrate how inane the illustration really is - it breaks down nearly effortlessly.. anyway, the video goes on to explain that god allowed "rebellious humans" to continue on because (more or less direct quote) "millions of angels were observing.

EverApostate

A father warns his teenage son not to drive their car. The Evil neighbor induces the teenage boy to drive it, who then drives and due to his inexperience, gets into an accident and is badly hurt.

The father, instead of treating his son, allows him to suffer with his wounds for decades

If asked about this, the father says that he has to prove to his neighbors that he was right and his son was wrong and that is why he allows his son to suffer endlessly

How Brilliant!!!

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Sunday's Watchtower Study March 18... Another Money Appeal

by BluesBrother in

january 2018 issue "why give to the one who has everything?

an unashamed contribution appeal... this one with the most manipulative language i can imagine... it may have been commented on before, but i am going to anyway.. p5 quote.

"would you not agree that jehovah is worthy of all the glory and honor that we can give him by offering the best that we have?

EverApostate

They also advertise as "No donations taken" in the meetings.

How do they reconcile this "beg" for money with the above?

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Obituary column was only one of the methods!

by Atlantis in

getting names and addresses from obituary columns was only one of themethods suggested by watchtower literature.methods used:get the names and addresses of people in the hospital.get names and addresses from obituary columns.get the names and addresses of new mothers.get the names and addresses of couples who have just gotten engaged.get the names and mailbox numbers from locations where jehovah'switnesses are not allowed to preach.

give that information to theelderly brothers and sisters to write their letters to.get the names and addresses from the phone book.. .

get names and addresses of business people you meet.. other sources.1956 watchtower/11/15/pg.688at one of the society’s bethel homes a brother, close to eighty yearsold, unable to climb stairs because of heart trouble, sends letters ofcomfort together with literature to those whose addresses appear inthe obituary column because of having lost a loved one.look for green underlining.https://www.docdroid.net/s6xkbfr/1956-the-watchtower-688.pdf------------------------------------------------------------------------------------watchtower 1967/6/1/pg.345the minister soon found that, since she had made the original call, hehad received a letter from a witness who obtained his name and addressfrom the obituary column in the newspaper.

EverApostate

Atlantis

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Obituary column was only one of the methods!

by Atlantis in

getting names and addresses from obituary columns was only one of themethods suggested by watchtower literature.methods used:get the names and addresses of people in the hospital.get names and addresses from obituary columns.get the names and addresses of new mothers.get the names and addresses of couples who have just gotten engaged.get the names and mailbox numbers from locations where jehovah'switnesses are not allowed to preach.

give that information to theelderly brothers and sisters to write their letters to.get the names and addresses from the phone book.. .

get names and addresses of business people you meet.. other sources.1956 watchtower/11/15/pg.688at one of the society’s bethel homes a brother, close to eighty yearsold, unable to climb stairs because of heart trouble, sends letters ofcomfort together with literature to those whose addresses appear inthe obituary column because of having lost a loved one.look for green underlining.https://www.docdroid.net/s6xkbfr/1956-the-watchtower-688.pdf------------------------------------------------------------------------------------watchtower 1967/6/1/pg.345the minister soon found that, since she had made the original call, hehad received a letter from a witness who obtained his name and addressfrom the obituary column in the newspaper.

EverApostate

When I was a Zealous Zombie, my neighbors son died in a road accident.

Since I was living far from him during that time, I posted him the "What happens when Someone who loves you dies" Brochure along with a WT sales letter.

Shame on me

Now, I am glad he didn't take it seriously

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The next time I see the cart babysitters

by Sour Grapes in

the next time i see the jdubs standing or sitting by their carts sipping their coffee lattes or updating their facebook pages, i am going to approach them with the following thought process acting as an interested person.. do jw's believe the end is near?.

do you consider your preaching work to be urgent?.

why do you just let people walk by if their very lives are at stake?

EverApostate

Those are very good questions.

Can also ask if Jesus did "Cart Witnessing".

Mighty Jesus could have printed far more colorful brochures and magazines with his immense Power and displayed them in a fancy cart, while watching passersby and chatting with his Field service buddy

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Why do you think they changed Ester and Christ death from?

by Crazyguy in

i believe the early christians going back as far as constantine changed the ritual of a savior coming and the resurrection of the messiah from the spring equinox to the following full moon.

or should i say the full moon after the spring equinox.

so why the change?

EverApostate

They changed because its all a MYTH.

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Why do you think they changed Ester and Christ death from?

by Crazyguy in

i believe the early christians going back as far as constantine changed the ritual of a savior coming and the resurrection of the messiah from the spring equinox to the following full moon.

or should i say the full moon after the spring equinox.

so why the change?

EverApostate

Known gospels were written decades after the supposed Jesus Death.

Then it was Edited, updated, modified and finally compiled by the Roman Catholic Church, centuries later.

No wonder the dates and time frames in the Bible are a mumbo jumbo confusion.

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When You See A JW Approaching What Are Your Thoughts?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i used to get a weird feeling in my stomach when i would see a witness approaching.... almost a sense of dread.

now, i really don’t care.

i have even made it a point to do the approaching when i see a witness trying to convert an ignorant person..

EverApostate

I would smile at them first , giving them the impression that I may be a potential convert.

Then would engage them with questions, starting with the Blood Issues and UN connection....

Perhaps something I say, may plant a seed of doubt in them which may someday bloom as TTATT

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How do you deal with people who do not like you?

by usualusername1 in

jw
friends

hi guysin the last year i have started to socialise a lot more.

namely comedy and a tennis social club.. for a variety of reasons i find socialising tough.

in my tennis club a couple of women have been extremely rude to me and i have blocked one from my phone and refuse to speak to both.. is my behaviour extreme?paul.

EverApostate

"Never explain yourself, your friends don't need it & your enemies will never believe it!"

That was really true in my case. When I quit JW, I tried hard to explain the TTATT to my JW friends. They never beleived anything I said, except labeling me as apostate and Evil.

I never had anything to explain to my old Non JW friends as to Why I quit.