Posts by EverApostate

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Watchtower teaches that Jesus dying on the stake is no longer certain

by Listener in

the watchtower has held for many years that jesus died on a stake and held strongly to this teaching.

w 1951 3/15 the above agrees with the new world translation of the christian greek scriptures in its appendix, page 769, in saying that the instrument upon which jesus was nailed was a stake without a crossbeam, and not the religiously represented “cross”; and that the greek word used for that instrument in ancient time meant a “stake” and not the conventional religious cross.

they are no longer certain on this point.

EverApostate

First of all why does an innocent man need to die for others(Sinners). Isn't this injustice ?

Moreover, what has Jesus Death brought for mankind ? Nothing, except the illusionary and hypothetical reasoning that he died for us , washed our sins and paid the ransom. Even if we accept this nonsensical human ransom theory, shouldn't have Jesus Death eliminated all sufferings and brought a Paradise Earth, right then and there ? When the price is paid, we get the benefit. That's how things work, right from the beginning.

Whether he died on a cross or a stake is another empty argument and reasoning based on a useless outcome.

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The spinning blade of a Sword and the 2 Angels guarding the gate....

by stuckinarut2 in

for some reason i found myself shaking my head once again in disbelief at the story in genesis.. amongst all things, the very concept of a "flaming sword" spinning around and blocking the "entrance to the garden of eden" is so stupid!.

do people really believe that as a fact?.

seriously, swords were not even invented at that time!

EverApostate

Flaming sword" spinning around and blocking the "entrance to the garden of Eden" is all real and exists until now. But invisible , just like Jesus ruling invisibly now.

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Last Memorial Experiences

by NoviceLocs14 in

i'll share mine first.... i had never missed a memorial for at least a quarter of a century of my life.

i was kind of raised to believe that missing the memorial was a sin in itself.. by 2013 memorial season, i was missing most of my meetings (even though i was still technically part of my foreign language congregation), and i had just come off the pioneer list.

i still made plans to attend the memorial (god forbid if i missed that lol).. i knew that typically our memorials were around 9 pm, since we usually got last priority (being a foreign language hall and all).

EverApostate

I was kind of raised to believe that missing the memorial was a sin in itself

To all those who still feel the same, just ponder over what the memorial is all about. Don't fall for the JW pressure that this is a very important and holy event. It is a cannibalistic practice of eating the flesh and drinking the blood of another human, to attain salvation, king-hood, or whatever non-sense. Even though the emblems are symbolic, it is still a cannibalistic ritual.(Symbolic cannibalism though )

This disgusting ritual for sure, was a practice among most of the ancient tribes to appease their gods and was borrowed by the Biblical Writers.

As for my experience, I missed the very first memorial after having awakened myself. Lot of dubs were terribly shocked though. I didn't give a damn, coz by that time I was thoroughly convinced that this was all fake. (Having read "Crisis of Conscience" cover to cover)

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Bible pssssges that are immoral - Lot offering his virgin daughters to be gang raped by homosexual males

by jambon1 in

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tell me me more about your just & loving god..

EverApostate

If the Bible is made as a full length feature film, with every passage interpreted exactly as a scene on the screen, what rating would it get. R, RR, RRR ?

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If Jehovah God was in "Human Form" with his Theocratic Nation on earth in todays climate he would be facing Human rights issues.

by smiddy in

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friends

where does one start :.

he is guilty of genocide for the attempted and succesful ,killing off other nations not leaving man woman or child alive.. he is guilty of barbarism against women for not living up to his rules or regulations such as cutting off a womans hand for defending her husband in a brawl with another man.. he is guilty of condemning the whole human race for the misdemeanor of the first human pair for eating a fruit he said not to eat ?

a bit over the top dont you think ?.

EverApostate

Certainly this Jehovah is a WAR criminal as per today's standards.

Also, this supposed GOD wipes away all the ancient tribes , Kills Uzziah instantly for protecting the ark, kills 70,000 citizens because David took a wrong census, kills the firstborn of Egypt for the Kings disobedience and yet leaves Satan aloof until today, supposedly to prove a point as per JW theory.

What an Idiot I had been to believe this.

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A woman wearing a head covering in subjugation of men - absolutely mental

by jambon1 in

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how did they ever get away with that and how does it go down now, in today's society?.

its fucking mental.

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EverApostate

Head covering of women - Yet another male chauvinistic tradition created by ancient nomads. Name a religion that does not dishonor women. Yet, women play a major part in all religions.

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Are Witnesses TRULY Honest, Humble and Hungry? (The 3 H's)

by stuckinarut2 in

how many times did we hear the worn out expression "that anyone who accepts the "truth" needs to have the 3 h's".

yes, they must be "honest hearted.

hungry for truth, and humble enough to accept that they need to change".

EverApostate

This is what I was told by some over Zealot JWs when I was in.

Persons with 3H will accept the Kingdom message.

Persons with any or all of the 3H missing will reject the Kingdom message.

So dont you worry if the majority of people reject our message coz they lag in the 3Hs

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Bible on cassette

by road to nowhere in

one thing that i questioned years ago was the release of bible reading so you could listen.

then when we finally got a tape it was in a thick german accent.

so much for getting the meaning of it..

EverApostate

Holy Cassette

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Contrast Jesus and Einstein

by venus in

jesus did not use his (superhuman) skills to prove the existence of either god or immortality of soul.

further, he did not answer direct, important questions put to him (mathew 21:23-27; luke 22:70 …), and most importantly never defined ego—the root cause of all problems ….

however, einstein, whose business was not spirituality, still defined ego as “optical illusion of consciousness.” this definition helps a lot because when one internalizes the idea that ego is only an illusion, he knows how to effectively deal with it.. .

EverApostate

Thanks for this quote - something to ponder upon. Googling >> Einstein said : "Our separation from each other is an Optical illusion of Consciousness."

Einstein discovered the theory of relativity which are widely used in our GPS systems, making life so easy now

Jesus said, "I am the way ......." but isn't worth a dime.

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Jehovah's Witnesses act like 'Flirts' with people!

by stuckinarut2 in

we were just musing that jws act in a "flirtatious" manner with people in the community.. they show such "sincere" interest in people when they call.

they seem like such kind, caring and thoughtful people - really interested in their lives and welfare.. people are often quite impressed with the jws manner, and their well dressed presentation.

people (especially vulnerable ones who are going through difficult pressures in life), are drawn in and made to feel special by the witnesses as they call back.. return visits take place.

EverApostate

JW love is Switch ON/OFF love.

If you slave for WT >> Switch on Love.

If you rebel against WT >> Switch off Love.

As simple as that.