Posts by kaik

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Why do people follow demonstrably False Prophets?

by WireRider in

why does everyone just turn a blind eye to the false teachings of the watchtower?

the bible warns us many times and in many ways not to follow false prophets - including the lake of fire.

fundamentally why do the followers of the watchtower just ignore the very bible they claim to live by?.

kaik

just shut up WireRider. I am far off from WT of 2015 and I left that organization 22 years ago. Everyone who is on this board for a long time and encountered my posts knows that I am the most sympathetic to Judaism due my marriage to Orthodox Jew. I absolutely do not care about your Christian nonsense, I do not believe in NT as holy book, and I will oppose you proselyte me for your faith. Try as an ordain minister -you claimed- to talk your Christian BS with any well educated rabbi, and you will lose because Christian beliefs do not have solid foundation based on the Bible they stole from Jews.

The issue with you Christians is very simple. Believe whatever you want, but keep your faith to yourself. I have not seen any Jew attempting to convert outsiders to their religion. In 18 years of my marriage, not single Jew demanded me to proselyte to their faith. It is obvious that you do not understand anything about ex-JW board, and you have no clue that majority of us who came from WT are not interested joining another crazy Christian religion.

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Why do people follow demonstrably False Prophets?

by WireRider in

why does everyone just turn a blind eye to the false teachings of the watchtower?

the bible warns us many times and in many ways not to follow false prophets - including the lake of fire.

fundamentally why do the followers of the watchtower just ignore the very bible they claim to live by?.

kaik

Very very untrue, The Bible does not teach hate, control, brainwashing, and a world owned by a few humans - lying about God for personal control and cash. I find the comparison offensive.

Of course it does. It is a book of full hate, misogyny, homophobia, endorsing slavery, war, persecutions of others.

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Why do people follow demonstrably False Prophets?

by WireRider in

why does everyone just turn a blind eye to the false teachings of the watchtower?

the bible warns us many times and in many ways not to follow false prophets - including the lake of fire.

fundamentally why do the followers of the watchtower just ignore the very bible they claim to live by?.

kaik

Christianity follows false prophets from its foundation. It is core teaching is violation of Covenant G-d made with Jews.

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Why do most Christians churches have masonic and/or pagan symbols?

by kabwell in

has anyone looked at the local churches in their area and seen pagan and freemason symbols both inside and outside.

i am not a jw but at least they don't seem to follow this trend.

why do "christians" wear a symbol of torture and death ?

kaik

I do collect watchtower books etc for their historical interest. I have a library of many thousands of books on religion, history, politics, ufos, conspiracy and bibles. I have bibles worth thousands of dollars each.

And you are trolling on this ex-JW forum for answer that can be find any publication related to history of pagan, Christian, and masonic symbols?

But I do see the jws as well as other cults closer to the teachings in the NT then most of the protestant and catholic sects..

How so? Because WT said it? JWs are not even Christians per see, they do not partake, have communion, or pray to Jesus. Jesus is mediator only for 144,000 from which majority had died 100 years ago and pertains it to couple thousands "chosen" one. JW are saved by association to WT cult, not through Jesus sacrifice.

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A question about fading....

by Tornintwo in

jw
friends

i understand that many on this forum are undertaking a slow fade, over months, years even.. can i ask what is the benefit of that instead of a fast fade?.

as i understand it, the elders only have to deal judicially with people who are still active witnesses, known in the community as witnesses, having contact and influence with witnesses etc.

so surely the sooner you stop attending meetings the better.

kaik

I faded on the spot. Just decided I do not want to go to KH and I do not believe WT is the channel of God's communication. I just could not take it anymore. Everyone is in different personal setting, so there is no universal good or bad answer on quick or slow fading. I was single, was living on my own, financially secured, so I could care less what anyone else thought.

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Are Jehovah's Witnesses marriages even legit?

by Joliette in

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friends

i ask this because of the circumstances behind why they get married and who they get married by.

i know people say that they are really in love, they love jehovah, etc, but are these marriages even legit.

i've talked to older jw's sister who are now widowed, some of them say that they were trapped in a marriages.

kaik

Legality of the marriage is determined by country laws and regulations, and it will differ from country to country. In Czech Republic, all marriages are secular and civic contract which must be filed at the local municipal court. Even religious service and wedding ceremony requires official signature by the municipal clerk. While elders can perform marriage ceremony in the KH which is considered religious site, the validity of the marriage is determined by signature of the municipal clerk. Therefore, marriage licensing and validity will differ across the globe.

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Raining before the Flood?

by GrownMidget in

i remember at my teen years when i was studying with a brother that he said to me that there was no rain before the flood.

instead there was this mist that you have.

never before or after this have i heard something like this.

kaik

Water cycle is crucial for life and would not be possible with just mist and water canopy.

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Hi noobie here.

by Grags in

hi my name is graham (but i much prefer to be called grags), i'm a 38 year old married man from the uk and have been studying with the witnesses for about 3 months.

i do a study every saturday and love every minute.

in john 6: 16-24 jesus's disciples get onto a boat without jesus and set off.

kaik

No worries, apology accepted.

What I remember from WT world there were indeed two stories of Jesus on boat during the storm. This is not unique to JW, but to mainstream Christian religions for centuries. The moral story from both events is different and have different outcome (Jesus calms the storm, while at the other Jesus walks on water and lets the storm proceed).

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Hi noobie here.

by Grags in

hi my name is graham (but i much prefer to be called grags), i'm a 38 year old married man from the uk and have been studying with the witnesses for about 3 months.

i do a study every saturday and love every minute.

in john 6: 16-24 jesus's disciples get onto a boat without jesus and set off.

kaik

Grags, welcome to the JWN. However, this is a site primary for ex-JW community and people who are somewhat connected to Jehovah Witnesses either through family,friends, and other association.

I really am not interested in anyone's negativity when it comes to our creator.

This pretty much sum up, why I should bother to explain two different stories depicting Jesus on boat in storm, something that was already explained by Catholic Church 450 years ago.

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Crazy things said by Higher Rank Witnesses

by GrownMidget in

it was the week when circuit overseer comes and my relatives wanted to offer the food.

i had got my school friend, a muslim girl, going into the meetings and she actually progressed and went to the field service, but never got baptized and one day she just disappeared.well anyway, this overseer comes for the free lunch and then when we are sitting in the table with his wife and my relatives, the muslim girl comes as the subject.

overseer throws out this absurd asshole joke that because their family doesn't like witnesses his father will come with a truck and drives it through the kingdom hall wall and then it explodes.

kaik

Around 1990 we had district overseer visiting our KH. It was turbulent era, communist regime just felt apart, and people started enjoying a breath of freedom. So, I go with this dude into field service, just two of as (yes big privilege of having two cousins as an elder), and he started to mumble like everything shows the last days. He told me when he reads a Revelation, he reads today's newspaper. He tried that wording on this field service through very well-to-do neighborhood. It was a disaster. He could not comprehend, that overall atmosphere people was festive and everyone was happy to be free. It was exactly opposite. Stores finally were getting goods, business opened, JWs were legalized, and someone come to stranger about prosecution and food shortage.