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  New awake up on jw.org about suicide

  by hoser in

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  they have printed a series of articles about suicide.

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  kaik

  Suicide is actually common in various cultures as it gives people a dignity to die instead living hooked up on machine. Suicide was always high in Central and Eastern Europe among Germanic, Hungarian, and Slavic people. I also suicide can be caused by underlaying medical condition, medication, mental illness, and depression. JW and many Christian denomination fails to see it as a medical condition, but do not have issue to condemn people who commit or attempted it as sinners.
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  More JW STATS from this year's CA: God’s Word Is Beneficial for Teaching

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this past weekend i wasted my time at another jw ca, during this time this is what our new do shared with all the drones and i just wanted to share with all of the current awaken jw's or ex-jw's.. .

  public address: who is rocking the nations, and how?.

  we all know the jw leaders love talk about numbers!.

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  They have hard time to keep up with a population growth. In industrialized countries, their numbers of JW are heading down. The growth rate is only from the most impoverished societies on this planet that have traditionally deep religious leaderships. After closing one Bethel after another in the past 5 years, they muxg consolidate to preserve monetary inflow.
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  Should I allow my mom to see the grandchildren?

  by confusedandalone in

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  2. beliefs

  so i am not officially da/do yet and my family has shunned me hard.

  today crying my mother calls me to beg to see my children... should i let her?

  i feel that if you can speak abusive of your own son and wife and shun the.

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  Podobear, I disagree. The parents have responsibility to secure well being of their children and protect them from a hurtfull influence. If the influence is own biological parent, it does not change that. Children have higher priority and vulnerability than adult. He has whatsoever right to be in a control of the situation with his own children if his mother made a decision to shun his own blood.

  People deserve respect, but the respect is earned. Not everyone who is a birth mother deserve respect. Mothers, fathers, grandparents abuse, hurt, molest, even kill children and grandchildren. Grandparents are after stepparents often the biggest abuser of children within the family.
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  Remember what they said at the assembly today...

  by lrkr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, the wife and i are reminiscing today about how when you would leave an assembly- you would struggle to remember just one interesting point.

  usually- you had to look at your notes or the program to just remember 1 thing that struck you.

  all day of talking and less than :30 seconds of information retained!!!.

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  I was on several international assemblies, the biggest one was in Prague - Strahov in 1990, which attracted about 115,000 people. I do not remember anything from it, except that they had mass baptism, and a complain from elders that we were associating with foreigner brothers without approval. But I do not remember single spiritual food talked there for three days.
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  Reading the Bible with my wife.

  by FadeToBlack in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  after she came home today from the meeting and we had a big discussion about the need for christains to meet together.

  she was very concerned that i would not survive the coming big a. i suggested that we start reading the bible together (just to show her i wasn't uninterested )and try to keep up with the wt schedule.

  she agreed.

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  You can order online The Harp of God and The Finished Mystery. I have them ordered from Amazon. I have them in PDF format and there are great source of JW disinformations from the past.
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  Should I allow my mom to see the grandchildren?

  by confusedandalone in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i am not officially da/do yet and my family has shunned me hard.

  today crying my mother calls me to beg to see my children... should i let her?

  i feel that if you can speak abusive of your own son and wife and shun the.

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  I agree with others who mention that she can misuse your children against you. JW are skilled in deceiving other people and they do not hesitate to lie to prove their point or having control of the situation. I will be very wary to let her mother interracting with your children and create disunity and division in your family. Your mother made a decision to cut you out, you have a responsibility to protect your family.
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  My Son has had two very big University interviews

  by CaptainSchmideo in

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  2. friends

  one for mit last month, and one for princeton tonight.. if i told this to people at my old hall, i am sure the reaction would be the same as if i broke a big, noisy windblast in front of them.. but i have to brag about it to someone, so, i will do it here.. .

  we will not know anything about whether he is going to be accepted for a couple of months yet, but, as they say, this $%^# just got real!.

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  I have been in both campuses, and I lived in Princeton for year and loved it out there. Congratulation for your son's better future!. Hope it works well for both of you.
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  I want to send a follow-up question to my sister who has recently cut me off

  by Faithful Witness in

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  2. experiences

  recently, i received this email from my jw sister: .

  while i appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.. our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.. at this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, i think it would be best if we didn't communicate.. i hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.. .

  i sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me.

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  Also it can happen that she will until her earthly existence never speak to you again. My evil, fanatical JW aunt refused to see her DF's son and his children until she died. For her, her offspring was dead and she beat up her chest how loyal was to Jehova to do so for 20 years. Some point you may have realize that your sister considers you spiritually dead and will never associate with you. You either will play to her hands, or you have to accept it as a possible reality.
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  Loyalty to Org Over Everything Else

  by startingover13 in

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  i'm slowly beginning to realize that the person who i love the most is more loyal to an organization above all else.

  some time ago, i wrote about how my girlfriend and i were both df'd for fornication.

  i do believe that what we did was out of line, from a biblical standpoint, and i accepted my discipline.

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  Startingover, sorry to read about your troubles. JW reflect good and bad people as everyone on this Earth. There are some good people and some jackasses. But I agree with Jamie that you should let her go. If she wants to return to organization and you will not, she will eventually ditch you out, and you will end up hurt even more. Many JW do not care what is written in Scriptures, they care what the WT publishes. You can reason with her through the Scriptures, but what it seems it is not working. What it seems, she is getting mentally prepared to return into KH.
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  More obvious reasons why Jesus never took up Kingdom rule in 1914

  by yadda yadda 2 in

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  the society has long taught that the immense, heaven-reaching, majestic tree of daniel 4 that it says represents gods rulership over the earth was cut down in 607bce, but that the copper band around the tree stump was unbanded in 1914ce when it says the kingdom was born and jesus began to rule.. matthew 13: 31 - he presented another illustration to them, saying: the kingdom of the heavens is like a mustard grain that a man took and planted in his field.+32 it is, in fact, the tiniest of all the seeds, but when it has grown, it is the largest of the vegetable plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of heaven come and find lodging among its branches.. notice the similarity of jesus words above with the description of the majestic tree of at daniel 4. there is even a cross-reference at matthew 13:32 to daniel 4 in the new world translation.. jesus is here comparing the kingdom of heaven to a tree that would have a tiny beginning as a seed but would grow bigger than all the other vegetation.

  tree seeds take a long time to grow, and so do unbanded tree stumps.. if the tree of daniel 4 was unbanded in 1914, did it instantly grow back into a giant, majestic tree over night?

  no, it would take a long time for it to regrow to its former height and glory.

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  Since early age, I was always doubtfull about 1914 as date pulled from someone else ass. It did not make whatsoever sense from reading various passages of the Bible. Invisible, thus inverifable presense, no eye had seen it, yet FDS could sense it, etc.

  The Finished Mystery says:

  The year 1914 brought the end of the Times of the Gentiles, but not the end of the Harvest work.

  It was not first and last European conflict (30 Years War, 7 Years War, Napoleonic Wars, and WWII). The Finished Mystery continues:

  Forty days after Christ's resurrection His ascension occurred. This confirms the hope of the Church's glorification forty years (a year for a day) after the awakening of the sleeping saints in the Spring of 1878. The seven days before the Deluge may represent seven years, from 1914 to 1921, in the midst of which "week of years" the last members of the Messiah pass beyond the veil.

  Also what many do not see is that real start of Jewish diaspora started in 135AD after Third Jewish War, in which Jews were banned from entering Jerusalem. The destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD did not put pagan worship there, it started in 135AD. The Finished Mystery predicted something on this in 1917 saying that it will happen in 1980 [It is possible that A.D. 1980 marks the gathering of all Fleshly Israel from their captivity in death]. JW also claimed that French Revolution:

  In fact, the French Revolution seems referred to by our Lord in His Revelation to John on Patmos as a prelude to, and an illustration of, the great crisis now approaching...

  However, 100 years ago, they wrote that Beginning of End started in 1799 when:

  Twelve hundred sixty years from 539 A. D. brings us to 1799, another proof that 1799 defitely marks the begining of "the time of the end". This also shows that it is from the date 539 A.D. that the other prophetic days of Daniel must be counted. [The Harp of God]

  Either way, for WT, you can pick any significant year in the history of humanity and they will model their prediction upon this. Once the year moves too far into history, then they pick another significant date. 225 years after the start of the French Revolution, 100 years after the start of the Great War, they running out of good date. The WT will eventually select another date that they can model another prophecies around it and count various horns, heads, and who knows what to fit Daniel and Revelation books.