our niece, irene, who posts here as inky, sent me an email.
her 27 year old son is getting married in two weeks, and she posted a few days ago about how he didn't invite her to his wedding.. she told me i can post it as she doesn't want to read it again.. "dear mom.
i've needed to write this letter to you for some time now.
The thing is, everyone there will notice she isn't there, and will think she is the one who is cold and wouldn't come to her own son's wedding.
Come on, Mrs. Former-Elder's-Wife ...surely you have ways of making sure that everyone knows the real story, don't you??? (Please tell me yes!)
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i got this in an e-mail.
i have no idea who it is.
On the right guy, that might be kind of attractive (in a different color!!).
That is not the right guy.
Does make his a$$ look fairly nice in the 2nd pic, but he does not have the very muscular torso and shoulders absolutely necessary to carry it off. And it has way too much emphasis on the genitalia.
our niece, irene, who posts here as inky, sent me an email.
her 27 year old son is getting married in two weeks, and she posted a few days ago about how he didn't invite her to his wedding.. she told me i can post it as she doesn't want to read it again.. "dear mom.
i've needed to write this letter to you for some time now.
Even if you had invited me to your wedding, I would not, in good conscience, be able to show my support for a life-long union between a loving, mild, industrious young woman with someone as cold-hearted and cruel as yourself. She really deserves better.
Yes!Yes!Yes!Yes!Yes!
Please send this letter!!!! and send a similar note to his fiance!!!
125 years of the watchtower, and women are still considered garbage.. they cannot give talks, have a position in the congregation, cannot lead a study when a man is present, give a prayer etc etc etc etc.......... they can be of the annoited class, but a man who is a ms, still has more say !!!!!!!!!!.
to all the women on this board, did this ever bother you as a jw, and does it bother you know ???.
how can women sit at a meeting and in a round about way be treated like garbage and accept it ????
I'm not saying this to pat myself on the back, but it is always dangerous to make generalized statements about any race, gender or group of people. Not all men are lazy good for nothing slobs. Some of us really care about family. Some of us view childcare and housework as important.
Ah, but I didn't say that all men were lazy good for nothing slobs who don't think housework is 'important' I don't think they are. My dad and my uncle, who have been my male role models, are excellent examples of such things, especially for men of their generation. I, more than most women, I think, really appreciate a guy who does his share (mostly because my husband doesn't).
The comment about housework and childcare was to give an example of a more or less 'traditional' women's job that's very stressful and takes strength, energy and endurance. The type of physical skills that women in general have, according to some studies, in greater quantity than men (compared to, say, upper body strength, which in general, men have more of). In our society, we are much more impressed by skill and strength and athletic ability on the football field and basketball court than we are by the skill and strength and athletic ability it takes to care for toddlers and run a house. We pay them more. We make a fuss over them. That's all I was saying.
Lots of men do help at home (and I give them the applause they deserve), but still the vast majority of women come home from a full day's work and do 90%+ of the housework and childcare. This has been consistant in study after study. Honestly, would you agree that a man who comes home from work and does all the cooking or all the housework or is responsible for the majority of childcare would get a lot of recognition and kudos from most people? Wouldn't people compliment him and talk about what a great guy he was? But if a woman works full time and does all that, do people's eyes get wide when she tells them "Yes, I work, and then I do all the cooking and cleaning and put the kid to bed." Do people make a 'big deal' of a woman who comes home from work and cooks and cleans, the way they do a man? My personal pet peeve is guys who, when they take care of their own kids, call it "babysitting." I finally asked one guy who said this, "When your wife has the kids, do you call it babysitting???" He looked at me kind of blankly.
ive been looking at an interesting site by a woman who receives transmissions from aliens called the zeta.
apparently the world as we know it will end may 15th when planet nibiru / marduk passes so close to our earth that an apocalypse will occur.
it last passed by when the noachian flood occurred.
Marduk? Wasn't there a middle-eastern god named Marduk? I think he was Jehovah's brother, wasn't he?
Marduk
Marduk, literal meaning "bull calf of the sun," the son of Ea, apparently a god of magic and incantations from early times. This double-headed sun god was given the epithet Bel, "lord" and identified with Enlil, especially he assumed the leadership of the Babylonian pantheon during the cosmis struggle with Tiamat, the sea-dragon of the salt-water ocean. Marduk, appointed as the celestial champion, slew Tiamat, fastened the tablets of destiny on his own breast, and created a new world order that included humankind. This is a paradoxical creation myth: for the chaos-monster, though slain and dismembered remained the body of the universe and was manifest in her children, the gods and goddess from whom Bel-Marduk received homage.
Marduk informed the assembly of gods that the center of the cosmis universe was Babylon where he had built a luxurious house. His prominence in Mesopotamian religion and his wide influence on Canaanite mythology was entirely due to the political and economic influence on the city, which became dominant following the Sumerian power decline.
There was a large henotheistic tendency at work in the Assyrio-Babylonian pantheon so that a large number of deities were treated as manifestations of Marduk: he assumed fifty names. His consort was Sarpanitu, the shining one, the planet Venus. The great festival of the god at the spring equinox was called zagmuk, the beginning of the year, when his resurrection occurred in Esagila, the house that lifts up its head. Nonetheless, King Mursilis I, who led Hittite warriors on a successful raid on Babylon about 1590 BC, robbed this shrine of the sacred image. A.G.H.
Source:
Cotterell, Arthur, A Dictionary of World Mythology, New York, G. P. Putman's Sons, 1980, p. 38
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Has anyone else read Twain's A Connecticuit Yankee in King Arthur's Court? (one of my favorites as a kid) In it, the hero (called The Boss) attempts to debunk a 'psychic' who fooled the common people into thinking he could tell them what the king or Merlin or somebody was doing right at that time (sort of a medieval version of the Enquirer). The Boss says to this person, in front of a crowd "OK, tell me how many fingers I'm holding up behind my back." The explanation is given that he can only see what 'important, royal or famous' people are doing (and, coincidentally, seeing as his audience are peasants, he'll never get caught in a lie). So, con men can always spin some sort of excuse.
125 years of the watchtower, and women are still considered garbage.. they cannot give talks, have a position in the congregation, cannot lead a study when a man is present, give a prayer etc etc etc etc.......... they can be of the annoited class, but a man who is a ms, still has more say !!!!!!!!!!.
to all the women on this board, did this ever bother you as a jw, and does it bother you know ???.
how can women sit at a meeting and in a round about way be treated like garbage and accept it ????
Okay, since you didn’t like that example lets try boxing. How many pro women boxers out there do you think would make it against a pro boxer like Lenox Lewis or Mike Tyson?My point is still the same. If you pulled 500 men off the street, what are the chances that even one of them would last 5 minutes with Tyson or Lewis? You can't use professional sports as an example to generalize that men are stronger than women.
Men are usually physically stronger than women. You can argue around the point until your blue in the face, but that’s a fact.Men and women have different physical strengths. It's widely bandied about that men have greater upper body strength, women have greater lower body strength. I believe it's accepted that women have greater stamina.
Pull 100 'average' men at random and have them stay home 24/7 with a 2 year old and a house to keep. How long before they give up. exhausted? If childcare and housework were viewed as 'important' in this society, that could be put forth as evidence that women were stronger. It just depends on what kind of 'strength' you think is 'important' - and that depends on cultural bias.
i hate mondays!.
i also feel bad because i have been receiving subtle hints from my hubby that he may be leaving me.
we have been married for 24 years, have 4 beautiful, intelligent children (one is no longer with us), we have been though troubles, worries, the death of our darling claire, money problems - you name it - we've been there.. now - because i have different religious views to him, he doesn't think he can associate himself with me any longer.
Come on, you guys...she may not have given him "scriptural grounds" for divorce, but when did that ever stop a JW?
Despite the fact that the stereotype JW wife married to an unbelieving husband who 'can't' divorce, I've heard many times of JWs managing to divorce "opposing" spouses. Especially since she's the wife and he's the husband. Especially since she has "left the truth", which is much more 'spiritually dangerous' than simply someone who was never a JW.
Call me cynical, but I don't doubt for one minute he could divorce her and marry a good little JW wife - even though that goes directly against what they say they believe!
i'm wondering if there are many truly militant apostates out there....... some real god hating watchtower bashing hard guys....i just read the "bill bowen update" thread and feel that all opposition is good opposition, and knowing that the wt society can see any posts we make, also feel its a shame they can see squabbles among their enemies.
Militancy of any sort is something I'm not very comfortable with. Sometimes the message is great but the manner that it's expressed is unsavory. ALWAYS being angry over issues is usually counter-productive to the cause, in my opinion
I think you and I have different ideas of exactly what "militant" means. I prefer definition #2 below (depending on the shading of 'combative')...I believe I am aggressive (as in 'proactive') in pointing out the flaws of the WT, but not constantly angry. Are members of the military "always angry"? No, that would not be a good quality in a soldier - one should be ready to take appropriate action and think clearly.
mil·i·tant (madj.
years ago, families were huge.
it wasn't rare to see families of 9 or 10 children.
today things are so different.
Just a thought from a Mom who is hoping to have a grandchild to cuddle and love one day!
You know...my husband cured my dad and the rest of my parents' church from asking when we were going to have a baby. When the 15th little old lady asked when we were going to have a baby, he replied (at a church function, in front of my dad), "We're still practicing."
years ago, families were huge.
it wasn't rare to see families of 9 or 10 children.
today things are so different.
Never wanted any.
Never had any.
Never will (tubes tied).
I like kids OK, but I'm not that crazy about them, and don't think you should have them unless you just can't live without them (I knew too many people who had them because they couldn't think of anything better to do).
