1925 had more scriptural support than 1914? Hmm, that sounds familiar...... Sort of like how there's more support for 1914 than electricity, wind, and gravity.
Good job on the conversation.
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"It's the intent that counts and not the result."
by donny in"it's the intent that counts not the result.".
i have been out of the jw organization for some 22 years now and i sometimes get a reminding jolt out the hoops that some will jump through to make their religion make sense to them.
the first line in this post is what a jw on the street here in salinas told me on saturday when trying to justify the society's history of false prophecies.
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Those that married a Ministerial Servant, Would you do it again?
by Quarterback inso, did you make a good choice?
was waiting for a ms really worth it?.
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Speaking as an ex-ms....... Absolutely not. Don't do it. We are a blind people. I truly enjoyed serving the brothers and sisters and do miss it, but it sets expectations for yourself that you can never meet, and all the activity blinds you to what's really going on.
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My family has known I'm an apostate
by cognac ini found out that my husband has not only gone to the elders, but has been going to members of my family about me over a period of a few years.
this piece of news is just so depressing.
i've been wondering how my family knew i didn't go and thats why so many of them have becoming more and more distant.
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pronomono
Cognac (my favorite drink, of course),
I've been going over some of your past posts and really feel for you and your situation. ((*hugs*)) I needed that too. What you've been through and are going through reminds me of many of the thoughts, feelings, and experiences I've been through with my wife. We're coming up on 6 years of marriage. I've been awake for a year and a half. Seeing some of your posts for the past 6 years scares the crap out of me because I see that becoming my future unless I take more decisive action now. I'm 29 and don't want to live my life regretting not acting sooner. Unfortunately, I don't like the consequences of taking action either. For people in our situation, there really is no "win-win", more of a "win-lose". We've had it engrained in our minds that people like us are the ones that create the divisions in households the Bible speaks of, but in reality its the man-made organization, religious leaders who insist on their spiritual superiority.
I want to say thank you for sharing your experiences because seeing your thoughts and struggles really does help, especially when I'm examining my own situation. I just don't always know how to put it into words.
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November 2015 article- "Boxers or Briefs? The Biblical position on girding your loins"
by Separation of Powers inthere is no room for self-expression in a cult.
this weekend's condemnation fest proved that.
looking forward to the november 2015 article, "boxers or briefs?
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As I move further away from theWT.....
by Viviane ini've, over the years, looked into many religions.
obviously, from those that have seen me post here, i've become an atheist simply because i couldn't find any reason to believe in god.
recently, though, over the past few months, a new change has started.
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Digging into things also helps avoid the niggling "OMG, what if they are right?!" worries that are soon swept away with learning and information.
This is the stage I'm at right now. I'm on the verge of detesting religion, or denominations at least. I don't believe in saying that I'm of this denomination or this (within Christianity). To me, a Christian is a Christian. Who cares about differences of interpretation as long as you don't force your interpretation on others (which JWs and lots of so-called Christians try to do). I'm still on the fence about whether Christianity is right, or if Christians have simply created a false dilemma. Or if Christians are wrong, but a God does exist. Or if God does exist, but not as we envision or in the nature that we think. Or if I truly care about the answers to any of these thoughts. For now, I'm just learning and taking in information, taking the time to digest it without making immediate conclusions. I have plenty of time to decide, hopefully...
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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I doubt there will be a "test your faith" announcement. At least at our hall, we are encouraged to invite everyone. This includes bible studies, family, and friends - not just JW publishers and higher rank. In our area this is being advertised as a public event. Unless we have the wrong idea about it, this seems more like a PR stunt to me to make everyone feel warm and fuzzy inside.
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JW making music videos now?
by adjusted knowledge ini'm not sure if this is new since it is hard to keep up with the ever changing jw.
it is morphing so much.
i went to jw.org tv video for november and around 53 or 54 minutes into the broadcast the gb guy introduce a music video called "we won't forget you".
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Excellent v2, Androb.
So far, the first two attempts at the GB making a music video has failed. Listening to them, I can't help but think "How is this any different from all the other Christian music that is out there?" Answer: In all the other Christian music, you'll at least find some talent.
In all fairness, even though this isn't my style of music, these are probably could be classified as really good first cuts that could be made better by a qualified sound engineer, but the volunteer workers aren't doing it justice.
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JW making music videos now?
by adjusted knowledge ini'm not sure if this is new since it is hard to keep up with the ever changing jw.
it is morphing so much.
i went to jw.org tv video for november and around 53 or 54 minutes into the broadcast the gb guy introduce a music video called "we won't forget you".
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punkofnice: or maybe "I Like Book Bags" to the tune of Sir Mix-a-Lot's smash hit "I Like Big Butts"
I like book bags and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a sister walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a plump book bag in your face
You get sprung, wanna pull out your tough
'Cause you notice that bag was stuffed
Deep with the 'zines she's carry'n
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh baby, I wanna preach with you
And get your number
(Family worship night)
Baby, can I get with you?
(Family worship night) My homeboys tried to warn me
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newbie to site looking for fellow DF's and DA's (or anyone else who has good conversation to offer)
by eyefell4it2 ini am new to the site.
i started perusing it this weekend and wish i had found it 10 years ago when i was on my way out.
anyways, long story short, was df'd for you guessed it...fornication or "loose conduct" even though i had been a pioneer with an elder father, grandfather and uncle and no previous issues.
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Welcome. We're glad to have you with us. Like you, I wish I had found this sight years ago. Things would be a lot different if I had. Still I have a lot to be thankful for. My time as a JW wasn't all bad. Even though I technically am still one, I'm struggling to find a way out and am coming to terms with the conditional love of the friends.
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Jonestown David Koresh at Waco and Heavens gate...any thoughts on death cults!
by Witness 007 inthese three men led there flock to mass suicide.
i listened to the last recording of jim jones and it was chilling.
people cheered and clapped when he told them it was the end...one older black woman protests saying "the children have a right to live" but she is shouted down by the other members saying "if they take our kids they will grow up to be dummies.
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If you have Netflix, watch "Jonestown: Paradise Lost". It was a really good docudrama on this, mostly a re-enactment, but had some original audio/video recordings. The sad thing is, his wife was totally against the koolaid, but ones the children were forced to drink the kool-aid, she was so distraught that she drank it herself because she couldn't live with herself anymore. It was amazing to see how far people would let themselves go to believe what they wanted, until I woke up and realized I was almost in the same situation with the JWs and blindly following men, although I never reached a life/death situation. The docudrama was very moving to me.
Also, "I Escaped A Cult" on FLDS and a few others was good too.