GoF, It does not mean you should go back! When I was a witness teenager I was sleeping with an older guy who was a witness also. We were sneaking around so nobody knew about it. Then there was a trip to Bethel that I wasn't allowed to go on cause my parents were suspicious. On that trip he announced his engagement to another sister. I knew nothing about it till a witness girl I went to school with told me on Monday. There are creeps everywhere, even in the Witnesses. Instead of thinking you shouldn't have left, you should be wishing the Witnesses taught girls how to be smarter about men. els
Posts by els
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21"...maybe I shouldn't have left"
by GirlOnFence inafter leaving the org... and confronting problems (in the real world), did you ever feel like... maybe this is a sign i shouldn't have left?.
i felt like this a couple weeks ago after finding out the guy i lost my virginity to (an other ex-dub), had a girlfriend the whole time we were together.
the thought of the org.
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Do You Expect To See Your Loved Ones In The Resurrection?
by minimus in.
that's a question i've been contemplating lately.
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I think that the whole idea of a resurrection, even the idea of living into the new system is part of what makes witnesses so unloving. If you think that someone, a family member or a friend is always going to be there, there is no need to really get to know that person or show how you feel. There will always be time in the future, right? Time when you're not so busy being a good little witness. I think that believing that life is short makes us appreciate people that much more and take the time to form real bonds and to show our love. The only time I can remember anyone in my family saying "I love you" to me is when they were trying to convince my to come back. Under those circumstances it just feels like a weapon. els
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One of our daughters in law said this:
by Mulan inour daughter in law, tracey, who was never a jw, is a hair stylist.
i went to the place she works for a haircut the other day, and was telling her about the big party at joy and steve's last month.
we talked about a lot of things about the party, and then she said this:.
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It's pretty easy to let the religion go. The hard part is when you have family that is still in, in my case my whole family. Today at work my boss asked me if I had called my Mom to wish her a happy Mothers Day. It was the simplest question but it opened up so many feelings. Most of the time I'm fine with it but having grown up a JW does color many things in my life. It's like growing up poor or rich or an only child or in a big family. It is part of who you are and always will be. els
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This place is the best!
by els ini have been on a different discussion board for these things called cluster headaches that i get.
it's a good board with alot of really good info but it's kinda hard to break into.
it's like they don't want to invest too much in you till they know you're going to stick around.
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Francois, Thank you for your concern. I am working on it. I'm taking Verapamil to try to prevent them but it is a blood pressure med and my BP started getting too low before I got up to an effective dose. My doc doesn't want me passing out somewhere. So he's trying something else. I take fast dissolve Zomig to abort them, works pretty good, about 15 mins, 20 tops. The problem is that insurance will only cover four at a time, for $30.00. I was getting hit with attacks up to 4 times a day so I was reduced to trying to only take it for the really bad ones and tough the other ones out. Most of the time I can get enough samples to keep me going. Breathing 100% oxygen for 10 mins or so will abort most of them but my insurance won't cover it so my husband is looking into getting it through the fire dept or the rescue squad for me. He has driven me to the fire dept. in the middle of the night a few times. He's a captain so he has a key and can get me in. Mostly I get hit between 9 at night and 9 in the morning so if I can squeeze in enough sleep I can funtion OK. And for me a cluster usually lasts 8 weeks or so. I'm 5 weeks into this one so the end is in sight. Sorry, that got kinda long. I'm glad you no longer have migraines, I hear they're a bitch also. I just wish someone would figure out what really causes these and come up with something that really works. Take care, els
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This place is the best!
by els ini have been on a different discussion board for these things called cluster headaches that i get.
it's a good board with alot of really good info but it's kinda hard to break into.
it's like they don't want to invest too much in you till they know you're going to stick around.
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els
I have been on a different discussion board for these things called cluster headaches that I get. It's a good board with alot of really good info but it's kinda hard to break into. It's like they don't want to invest too much in you till they know you're going to stick around. You guys are so much more welcoming. I just thought this was a good time to say "Thank you". els
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Put one of these in your window
by onacruse inelectric sign
for your homes and other places, to call attention of all passers-by to the kingdom message which jehovah has entrusted to you to dispense.
this sign is attractive.
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Is this for real?! els
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The Human Potential.
by Blueblades incan life retain it's potential meaning in spite of its tragic aspects?.
such as the pain ,guilt and death that we all experience.the human potential allows us to yes to life in spite of everything,making the best of any given situation.. "the human potential ,when at its best allows for us to turn suffering into a human achievement and accomplishment;to derive from guilt the opportunity to change oneself for the better;and deriving from life's transitoriness an incentive to take responsible action.
" viktor e.frankl.. now,for those of you who are former jw's and have suffered pain in all its forms,felt guilt,and feel the transitoriness of life,years lost etc.have you developed your human potential,are you able to make the best of any given situation, are you able to yes to life in spite of everything that has happened to you or what?.
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I think I'm beginning to. I have always been a basically happy person but over the past year I've been very depressed. I blamed it on my family shunning me but have come to realize that there was much more to it. I haven't been a witness for 17 years but I never really left the closed mind set. I was in limbo. I felt good about not being a witness but I never went out and got what I really wanted out of life. Now I have decided to not let them hold me down anymore. I see my kids grown up, my son leaving high school and my daughter college. I recently spent a few days at college with her. I saw her dance show and watched her do a presentation in front of her professors and hung out with her friends. Afterwards I was in tears telling my husband how happy I am that she has had the chance to do all the things she's done. She is so happy and self confidant. I regret not having that chance but I don't want to regret the rest of my life. So here's to potential and seeing what mine is. els
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How Did You Feel When.......
by rocketman in.
.......it was announced to the congregation that someone was df'd or reproved?
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I never ever felt like it was the right thing to do. It felt like we were turning our backs on them when they needed support the most. It had alot to do with why I left. els
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How many DFed go back?
by els inmy son just got a letter from my mother saying how glad she is that he didn't stay in the army.
i told them a month ago that he didn't go to iraq cause he's still in school.
i don't know how to do a link but i posted "phone call from my sister" on april 3rd.
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My son just got a letter from my mother saying how glad she is that he didn't stay in the army. I told them a month ago that he didn't go to Iraq cause he's still in school. I don't know how to do a link but I posted "Phone call from my sister" on April 3rd. Anyway, somehow she took from that that he's not in anymore. She wrote all this stuff about how she's glad he's not blood guilty or working for Satan. Then she talks about God's government that will get rid of all the other ones and says that I learned about this kingdom and that I still believe it if I would admit it. She says that some have to be disfellowshipped for doing wrong, but most go back because they know it is the truth, and that if I had kept on learning I would know that. So my question is, what percentage of disfellowshipped witnesses actually go back? I'm searching the archives but if anyone has the figures on this it would be great. I am so pissed. My kid's are grownups but they don't need this crap. els
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disgusting comment made
by SpiceItUp inso i'm helping out my mother with her garage sale this weekend.
kinda boring sitting around in the heat (although i can't complain too much since we were in a nice patch of shade and had a decent breeze).
a "customer" pulls in and my mother quietly whispers to me "isn't that so-n-so's dad (a dub girl i went to school with).
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I remember in 1969 when my oldest sister and her husband were expecting that there were comments made about how "unwise" it was to have children then. Their son is now almost 33.
I also remember when my children were little and my brothers children were just a little older. There were things said about how I was raising my kids. They felt I was too lenient because most of the time I just ignored bad behavior and hugged and kissed them too much. I told my brother that we would judge parenting styles when they were grown up.
Well, he doesn't know where his 25 year old son is and his 22year old daughter moved away and is living with a "worldly" guy. Meanwhile my 22 year old daughter is graduating college on May 17th and we talk almost every day. My 18 year old son is in the Army Reserves and still hugs me goodnight willingly.
When they were born I decided that we were going to have a real connection. Not just me reacting when they screwed up like it was for me growing up. els