Just recently I have found out that my nephew (I'll call him R) is no longer a JW. My brother and sister-in-law (his parents) are still in along with there 2 other children. The other son married an elder's daughter a year ago and my niece is a pioneer. R has a job in advertising which keeps him busy so I always wondered how or if he was keeping up with his JW work. When ever we would question his parents about R they would say he is busy and they really weren't sure how he was doing because he would not call or return messages. R is dating a woman from his office who is Catholic which is what the rest of the family is so we could not be happier. The family would like a closer relationship with R that is have him over for holidays and the like. My question is how should we go about this? Does he need time to sort things out since his parents and siblings are still in? Thanks, JohnR
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Nephew Out...Now What?
by JohnR injust recently i have found out that my nephew (i'll call him r) is no longer a jw.
my brother and sister-in-law (his parents) are still in along with there 2 other children.
the other son married an elder's daughter a year ago and my niece is a pioneer.
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Curiousity about current JW Views on going into churches
by Brymichmom ini've been following a thread on another forum where jw's are insisting that it is ok for them to go inside churches for weddings, funerals, etc.
they say it's quite ok to go inside any church just as long as they don't participate in the service by singing, praying, kneeling...etc...some of them say that they have seen "guest speakers" in churches who came as watchtower representatives.
when did this ever change?
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JohnR
My Grandmother had died and we were wondering if my brother and his family, who had recently turned JW, would be attending. To our surprise they did come to the wake and the funeral. My brother told me that he had checked with an elder who said as long as they don't participate it should be alright. As he told me this I was thinking you had to ask permission to go to a relatives funeral! And he did not think that was odd. What was even better was when we started praying at the funeral home I had my niece on my lap and the rest of his family just sat there doing nothing.
Our father died about 5 years ago and they did attend that funeral also. He even let my two nephews be pallbearers and accompany the coffin in to the Catholic church. His family sat there through the entire mass and did nothing else but sit and stand. At the wake the night before the funeral home and viewing room were packed with people. I did not realize how many were JW's until the priest started prayers and about half the people left the room to continue their conversations. They were very loud and my mother was not very happy with them.
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Another WTdouble standards
by Stan Conroy ini had the misfortune of looking through the june 8 2002 awake, and stumbled across an article on hawaiian luahas (pardon my spelling as i don't have it here in front of me).
the footnote said something along the lines of it originating with false religion, but now it's just considered a banquet, so many christians participate with a clean conscience.. wait a minute!.
what ever happened to "if it had pagan origins it's bad"?
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JohnR
Utopian_Raindrops
You said,
"I have stayed away from my family for so many years......only realy associating with my parents who bent over backwards to find days off that were not on holidays to spend with thier Grandkids."
"People work today and a lot of times only get Holidays off!! So this is a real seperating in a sneeky way of people from thier familys. Making you feel uncomforatable with them because they are suposedly"Pagan"."
Those are both excellent points. My Father always believed that was the purpose behind the teaching. To seperate the JW from their family and then substitute the KH as their new family. It makes them easier to control!
John
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JWs accept gifts from Santa's Helpers
by blondie inhttp://www.masslive.com/news/unionnews/index.ssf?/base/living-0/103994100286828.xml
today's news
santa's helpers cheer youngsters .
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JohnR
I am shocked (ok maybe not) that they would accept those presents. I would guess the mother justified it by thinking they were just run of the mill gifts not Christmas gifts. Contrast that with my JW brother thinking he should not come over for dinner a few days after Thanksgiving just because we were serving turkey.
John
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Christmas Lights
by SweatPea incheck out this sight http://www.mcadenville-christmastown.com.
this little town is about a 20 minutes from where i live.
it is absolutely breath taking during christmas time.
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JohnR
It looks like they put a lot of work into making the town look nice for the holidays. Nice to see the JWs decorating their homes for the benefit of the community. LOL
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Oh S#*t! what do i do now?
by Pleasuredome inif i survive it thru the coming inquisition of jan,feb & march....what am i gonna do for the memorial?
if i dont go big questions are going to be asked!
i dont agree with the rejecting passing of the bread and the wine... so what do you think i should do?
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JohnR
From what I have personally experienced with my JW brother and also read here the JWs do a lot of rejecting. They make a big production out of not taking bread and wine. They shun and DF. They break up families. They tend not to associate with anyone outside of the hall. I knew it was bad but I must say I never realized just how bad it was.
This continues to be an eye opening experience
Thanks,
John
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were you forced to give up your fleshly family
by nightwarrior in.
please take note.. when i first started studying with jehovahs witnesses ,over a period they lead you to beleive that your family are serving satan ,therfore hidden pressure is put upon you to ditch your family ,if your weak you will do as you are told but as allways they make you think your doing it for god,its so they can start to control you slowly ,your familys gone your old friends are gone you have nothing else be warned then comes the reliance upon every single word the elders say to you hypnotismn comes allso through the literature ,.
i kept my family at a distance i never allowed man to dictate ,pluss i had no opposition from my family in times of need i was there to support my greater family and now i still have them if needed why make yourself miserable.. thank god i never bowed to the presure of relinquishing my family ties
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JohnR
Beck,
Funny you should mention the "Dark Side". I usually refer to my JW brother as having gone over to the "Dark Side". I guess it is a matter of perspective.
John
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Oh S#*t! what do i do now?
by Pleasuredome inif i survive it thru the coming inquisition of jan,feb & march....what am i gonna do for the memorial?
if i dont go big questions are going to be asked!
i dont agree with the rejecting passing of the bread and the wine... so what do you think i should do?
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JohnR
Gopher,
Let me ask you this, how does one know if they are anointed? Am I correct in guessing the anointed have something to do with the 144,000? Also, have you or anyone else for that matter seen one of the anointed?
Thanks, John
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"cleanest Witness community the web has ev...
by the dog inyeah?
the dog.
as our community continues to grow, the jwotw is committed to provide a clean environment for jehovah's witnesses online to associate with one another.
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JohnR
I found it kind of funny that they have ads flashing at the top of the page. One was to enter to win some contest and another was holiday gift giving. Do you suppose that any one will click through for holiday gift ideas? LOL
John
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Oh S#*t! what do i do now?
by Pleasuredome inif i survive it thru the coming inquisition of jan,feb & march....what am i gonna do for the memorial?
if i dont go big questions are going to be asked!
i dont agree with the rejecting passing of the bread and the wine... so what do you think i should do?
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JohnR
Gopher,
Thanks for the explanation. After reading your response I do have an additional question. Why do they not take any of the bread and wine? It seems odd to make a big production of just passing it around and not taking any.
Thanks, John