Beck,
Funny you should mention the "Dark Side". I usually refer to my JW brother as having gone over to the "Dark Side". I guess it is a matter of perspective.
John
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please take note.. when i first started studying with jehovahs witnesses ,over a period they lead you to beleive that your family are serving satan ,therfore hidden pressure is put upon you to ditch your family ,if your weak you will do as you are told but as allways they make you think your doing it for god,its so they can start to control you slowly ,your familys gone your old friends are gone you have nothing else be warned then comes the reliance upon every single word the elders say to you hypnotismn comes allso through the literature ,.
i kept my family at a distance i never allowed man to dictate ,pluss i had no opposition from my family in times of need i was there to support my greater family and now i still have them if needed why make yourself miserable.. thank god i never bowed to the presure of relinquishing my family ties
Beck,
Funny you should mention the "Dark Side". I usually refer to my JW brother as having gone over to the "Dark Side". I guess it is a matter of perspective.
John
if i survive it thru the coming inquisition of jan,feb & march....what am i gonna do for the memorial?
if i dont go big questions are going to be asked!
i dont agree with the rejecting passing of the bread and the wine... so what do you think i should do?
Gopher,
Let me ask you this, how does one know if they are anointed? Am I correct in guessing the anointed have something to do with the 144,000? Also, have you or anyone else for that matter seen one of the anointed?
Thanks, John
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the dog.
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I found it kind of funny that they have ads flashing at the top of the page. One was to enter to win some contest and another was holiday gift giving. Do you suppose that any one will click through for holiday gift ideas? LOL
John
if i survive it thru the coming inquisition of jan,feb & march....what am i gonna do for the memorial?
if i dont go big questions are going to be asked!
i dont agree with the rejecting passing of the bread and the wine... so what do you think i should do?
Gopher,
Thanks for the explanation. After reading your response I do have an additional question. Why do they not take any of the bread and wine? It seems odd to make a big production of just passing it around and not taking any.
Thanks, John
if i survive it thru the coming inquisition of jan,feb & march....what am i gonna do for the memorial?
if i dont go big questions are going to be asked!
i dont agree with the rejecting passing of the bread and the wine... so what do you think i should do?
What is the memorial? I have a brother who is a JW and I would like to know what goes on but prefer not to talk about anything JW with him.
Thanks, John
thanks again to everyone for their comments about what to expect at the wedding.
my nephew did go through with it (so did the bride) so i thought i would give some of the highlights.. the ceremony lasted about 45 minutes we were seated for the entire time.
the elder talked to the groom and bride about what was expected of them.
Pictures? Hmmmm Yes, I did take pictures of the ceremony but not at the reception. I still need to get them developed. At this time I am not prepared to share as I am sure the JW side of the family would not want to be pictured here.
Also, the CO was in town for the whole weekend and I guess he and the elders had a meeting on Friday which the Father of the bride missed. The only reason I know is the Father mentioned it at the rehearsal dinner on Friday. The Father was talking to the elder that was to officiate at the wedding when the Father said he was probably going to be in trouble for not being at the meeting but that the CO could get along without him for the day.
Regarding the comments at the hall about no rice and the reception about no toasting. I suppose I'm just sensitive but it was fairly obvious those comments were directed at the non-JW guests and I thought it rather disingenuous to say that the bride and groom requested that we not do those things. I thought it was obvious the "request" came from someone higher up than the bride and groom.
JohnR
thanks again to everyone for their comments about what to expect at the wedding.
my nephew did go through with it (so did the bride) so i thought i would give some of the highlights.. the ceremony lasted about 45 minutes we were seated for the entire time.
the elder talked to the groom and bride about what was expected of them.
Thanks again to everyone for their comments about what to expect at the wedding. My nephew did go through with it (so did the bride) so I thought I would give some of the highlights.
The ceremony lasted about 45 minutes we were seated for the entire time. The elder talked to the groom and bride about what was expected of them. I tried to count how many times he said jehovah but I lost track after 30. What I found most interesting was that during the talk he would quote Bible phrases and where they could be found at which point about a third of the audience (including my brother) would turn to the page in the Bible with the quote he was using. Very funny to listen to all the page turning. At the end of the ceremony he felt the need to say that the couple did not wish to be pelted with rice. As if as they walked down the aisle to the back of the hall people were going to throw rice.
Everyone had a good time at the reception. Open bar throughout so fun was had by all. They had champaign on the table for dinner but then after the prayer they said that the couple requested no toasts or clinking of glasses. Relatives from my sister-in-law's side of the family asked me why they could not toast I said JWs don't believe in it and left it at that. I guess the champaign just comes with the package.
All the relatives got together for breakfast on Sunday morning to see off the newlyweds. That is except the father of the bride who happens to be an elder. The CO was at their hall for the weekend and the father had already missed the Friday CO meeting because of the rehearsel dinner so he did not make it to our breakfast.
JohnR
my brother and his family have been jw's for over 10 years now.
i am not and no one else in my family is a jw.
my brother's son will be getting married shortly and we will be attending the service in the kh.
jurs,
Thanks for pointing out that freeman was just joking. I knew he was also but asked the question hoping he might come up with another amusing story. Sorry to hear you were "talked to" about your skirt. Did that cause you to wear something more appropriate or were the boys just as happy to see you the next time?
Scully,
It is rather strange what my brother will and won't attend. He and his family have attended funerals that were in Catholic churchs. They went because an elder said they could attend as long as they did not "participate".
Shakita,
I am sure if nothing else I will have plenty of interesting stories to tell. Funny you should mention that they do not have a toast. There is a little family tradition we have which is a small toast after the meal blessing. The JW part of the family does not always participate. I guess now I know why.
JohnR
my brother and his family have been jw's for over 10 years now.
i am not and no one else in my family is a jw.
my brother's son will be getting married shortly and we will be attending the service in the kh.
outnfree,
Thank you for the information. I prefer not to speak to my brother about anything to do with the KH but still wanted to not be surprised at the wedding. I guess you could say he is liberal because they do drink so I think they will have alcohol at the reception. Which we are invited to. The only problem will be that a good 2/3 of the guests will be JW's. Should be interesting.
freeman,
The bride has a dress, my nephew a tux etc. so there won't be a nude bridal party at this wedding. But that does sound most interesting. Tell me, have you actually witnessed a nude bridal party at a wedding?
JohnR
my brother and his family have been jw's for over 10 years now.
i am not and no one else in my family is a jw.
my brother's son will be getting married shortly and we will be attending the service in the kh.
My brother and his family have been JW's for over 10 years now. I am not and no one else in my family is a JW. My brother's son will be getting married shortly and we will be attending the service in the KH. I would like to know what to expect before we get there. Any information or advice would be appreciated.
Thanks