Topics Started by Island Man

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How about having a special undercover mode so PIMOs can browse the site with greater security?
by Island Man in
1. forum
2. suggestions
when you visit the site it says jehovahs-witness big and bold.

a pimo might be browsing the site and a jw might come up behind him unexpectedly and notice he's visiting a site about jws other than jw.org, which can lead to the pimo reported for viewing apostate information.. to help remedy this risk, i was thinking about the possibility of having a button that activates an undercover mode where the title of the site is not prominently displayed so it's not easily apparent to an accidental eavesdropper that it's an apostate website.

also, the color-scheme and graphics can be different so that it doesn't look like the regular site.
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What would happen to a JW who respectfully refused to fill out a no blood DPA?
by Island Man in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know you'll be involuntarily disassociated if you unrepentantly accepted a blood transfusion; and i know you'll be disfellowshipped for apostasy if you openly disagreed with watchtower teaching.

what if you have done none of the above but simply respectfully refused to fill out the dpa without giving any reason for your refusal - so they can't accuse you of openly disagreeing with the no-blood doctrine and df you for apostasy.

they don't know why you're refusing and you're not giving them the reason - and you're being very respectful.. what can they do?.
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The "Jesus is Michael" teaching soon to go?
by Island Man in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
could the teaching that jesus is michael the archangel, be soon to be discarded?

first of all, watchtower is big on image and this is one of those teachings that paint the jw religion as being rather kooky and heretical.

secondly, this teaching is not an original watchtower teaching but one they inherited from their second adventist ancestry.
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1 Timothy 6:1: One of the funniest verses in the Bible that reveals its very shortsighted human authorship.
by Island Man in
1. social
2. humour
let those who are under the yoke of slavery keep on considering their owners worthy of full honor, so that the name of god and the teaching may never be spoken of injuriously - 1 timothy 6:1. .

yes, you've read correctly.

it's not the fact that the author condones slavery and never tells his readers that it's bad to own slaves - it's not that that will bring reproach on the religion, no!
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Why I think the Trinity doctrine is an irrelevant talking point with JWs, and what I believe could be a better approach.
by Island Man in
1. watchtower
2. bible
there are no authentic/uncontested bible verses that prove a trinity.

the trinity doctrine is arrived at by inferences - not unlike the way that jws arrive at the doctrine that jesus is michael the archangel.

the jw proof texts against the trinity are at least as strong, if not stronger than, trinity proof texts.
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Song 63 - They're Watchtower's Witnesses.
by Island Man in
1. social
2. humour
1. they've made gods of flesh and bone, also gods of wood and stone.give them all loyalty, their own blood disown.shackled minds just cannot seethat it's pure idolatry.why, witnesses deserve such disdain!since few will use their god-damn brain!.

(chorus).

they're watchtower's witnesses.they parrot such foolishness.theirs is the god of false prophecy;lies he foretells constantly.. .
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Why "... when it does touch on scientific matters [the Bible] is accurate" is bogus BS.
by Island Man in
1. watchtower
2. bible
jws and other christians would often point to the handful of the bible verses that seem to be scientifically accurate as evidence of its divine inspiration.

but not surprisingly, they ignore the ones that are scientifically inaccurate, or when they address those verses they put a spin on it like saying the account is not a reflection of what the bible is teaching but what men at the time erroneously believed and which god allowed them to record in the bible.

would you believe a jw actually told me that!
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The Resurrection narrative can make perfect sense if you consider it to be a lie.
by Island Man in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
there are aspects to the resurrection story that seem unnecessary but make perfect sense if you consider them as patches to shore up the lie of jesus' resurrection.. (1) why did there have to be angels present at jesus' resurrection?

there is no other resurrection account in the bible that mentions the involvement of angels.. possible explanation: jesus' disciples really did steal jesus' body from the tomb.

two or three of them ambushed and knocked/drugged unconscious the guards on the scene before stealing the body.
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How can angels be sexually attracted to women?
by Island Man in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the nephilim account in genesis is utterly ridiculous when you consider that angels are sex-less beings and would therefore lack sex-drive and romantic attraction.

think of how difficult it is for humans with a sex drive to be sexually attracted to animals.

now take away that sex drive and it becomes literally impossible.
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You can defeat lies with truth. But you can only suppress truth with censorship.
by Island Man in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
watchtower bans jws from visiting apostate sites and reading apostate literature.

banning is the tool of the weak and the cowardly, those lacking the courage and/or strength to defeat the enemy face to face.

we ban - quarantine - infected ebola patients from the rest of the population because it's a strong disease and we lack a cure for it.